Length Contraction and special relativity

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The problem involves the concept of length contraction in special relativity, specifically examining how the dimensions of a spaceship appear to an observer when it is traveling at relativistic speeds. The original poster seeks to determine the speed at which the spaceship must travel for its length to appear equal to its width.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the observed length and width of the spaceship, questioning the original poster's calculations and assumptions regarding the values of Lmoving and Lrest.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on re-evaluating the values used in the length contraction equation, while others have prompted the original poster to clarify the conditions under which the spaceship's dimensions are perceived. There is an ongoing exploration of how the width may also be affected by relativistic effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of relativistic speeds on both length and width, and there is uncertainty regarding whether the width of the spaceship should be included in the calculations for Lmoving.

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Homework Statement


The dimensions of your friend’s spaceship are 100 meters in length, with a cabin width of 20
meters (i.e., you could approximate the main body of the ship as a cylinder with length 100
meters and diameter 20 meters). However, since your friend’s spaceship is speeding past you
at a relativistic velocity, you observe it to be highly foreshortened, with identical length and
width. At what speed is your friend traveling past you? Express your answer in units of the
speed of light.


Homework Equations


length contraction equation:
Lmoving= Lrest x [ 1- v^2/ c^2] ^1/2

The Attempt at a Solution



Lmoving= Lrest x [ 1- v^2/ c^2] ^1/2

solve for velocity --> v= c x [ 1- Lmoving^2/ Lrest^2] ^1/2

v= c x [ 1- 100m^2/ 100m^2] ^1/2
v= c x [ 1-1] ^1/2
v= c x [0] ^1/2
v= 0c

I don't know if I did this right, I don't know if I was supposed to include the width somewhere in here but if any of you guys can help me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
 
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Well, you got that he is not really moving at all, so I guess that is not quite right.

Check again the value you have for Lmoving. The clue lies in the sentence:
However, since your friend’s spaceship is speeding past you at a relativistic velocity, you observe it to be highly foreshortened, with identical length and width.
 
You are looking for the velocity where your friend's ship looks as long as it is wide to you. If it is 20 meters wide, how short would it have to be contracted to lengthwise to fulfill this condition? ( At what speed will Lmoving be equal to the width of the ship.
 
thank you I understand it now, so Lmoving = 20m and Lrest= 100 meters and then I just solve for velocity. Thanks for all the help!
 
Are you sure the width is not contracted as well?
 

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