L'Hospital's Rule: Understanding and Applying the Rule for Limits at Infinity

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The problem involves evaluating the limit as x approaches infinity for the expression (e^x + x)^(1/x). The original poster expresses confusion about the steps taken in the provided solution, particularly regarding the use of natural logarithms and the equality of two expressions involving limits. The context of the assignment is centered around L'Hospital's Rule.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hospital's Rule and the necessity of converting the function into a 0/0 or ∞/∞ form before applying it. There is also a suggestion to break down the expression into components for easier evaluation. Questions arise about the continuity of functions and the conditions under which certain limit properties hold.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the continuity of functions and the application of limit theorems, but no consensus has been reached on the specific steps to take next.

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Participants note the original poster's self-identified challenges with abstract mathematics and their status as a first-year university student. There is an acknowledgment of the potential gaps in understanding foundational concepts related to limits and continuity.

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Okay, so the problem is to find lim (x→∞) (e^x + x) ^ (1/x)

I was given the solution in the assignment in which the first step was to take the natural log of the function, then exponentiate it.

i.e.

lim (x→∞) [exp ln( (e^x + x) ^ (1/x))]

which I understand.

However the next step, the solution equated this with:

exp [ lim (x→∞) ln( (e^x + x) ^ (1/x))]

which I became confused with. Are the two equal? Am I missing out on something?

This assignment we're doing l'Hospital's Rule, if that's of any help...

I probably won't be able to understand too abstract math, currently doing my first year in university...

Thanks.
 
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There is a theorem which states that if f is continuous then <br /> \lim_{x \to a} f(g(x)) = f( \lim_{x \to a} g(x)). (This implicitly asserts that either both limits exist and are equal, or neither of them exist.)
 
Remember that before you can apply L'Hospital's rule you must convert the function into a 0/0 or ∞/∞ form.
 
CeilingFan said:

Homework Statement



Okay, so the problem is to find lim (x→∞) (e^x + x) ^ (1/x)

I was given the solution in the assignment in which the first step was to take the natural log of the function, then exponentiate it.

i.e.

lim (x→∞) [exp ln( (e^x + x) ^ (1/x))]

which I understand.

However the next step, the solution equated this with:

exp [ lim (x→∞) ln( (e^x + x) ^ (1/x))]

which I became confused with. Are the two equal? Am I missing out on something?

This assignment we're doing l'Hospital's Rule, if that's of any help...

I probably won't be able to understand too abstract math, currently doing my first year in university...

Thanks.

I would do it differently: (x+e^x)^(1/x) = (a b)^c = (a^c) (b^c), where a = e^x, b = 1+ x e^(-x), and c = 1/x.
 
Then you still have to show x e^(-x) --> 0 for x->inf, but it is still an elegant solution as this limit was probably studied before.
 
pasmith said:
There is a theorem which states that if f is continuous then <br /> \lim_{x \to a} f(g(x)) = f( \lim_{x \to a} g(x)). (This implicitly asserts that either both limits exist and are equal, or neither of them exist.)

Ah. All make sense now. Is there anywhere I can read up on this rule? I don't think I was taught this, unless it's derivable from what I already know. Either that or I've been a horrible student. Haha..

So it doesn't have to be a limit at infinity for this rule to hold, can be any limit right?

Also didn't know this was considered calculus... Shows that I don't even know what I'm studying.
 
CeilingFan said:
Ah. All make sense now. Is there anywhere I can read up on this rule? I don't think I was taught this, unless it's derivable from what I already know. Either that or I've been a horrible student. Haha..

So it doesn't have to be a limit at infinity for this rule to hold, can be any limit right?

Also didn't know this was considered calculus... Shows that I don't even know what I'm studying.

The concept you want is "continuity", or "continuous functions". If your textbook does not have it, use Google. Basically, a function ##f(x)## is said to be continuous at ##x_0## if ##\lim_{x \to x_0} f(x) = f(x_0)##. Note that if ##f(x)## is continuous at ##x_0## and ##g(y)## is continuous at ##y_0 = f(x_0)##, then ##g(y) \to g(y_0)## as ##y \to y_0##, and ##y = f(x) \to y_0 = f(x_0)## as ##x \to x_0##, so we have ##g(f(x)) \to g(f(x_0))## as ##x \to x_0##. This just needs the continuity properties of ##f## and ##g## mentioned before.

However, the less stringent result
\lim_{x \to x_0} g(f(x)) = g(\lim_{x \to x_0} f(x))
requires weaker conditions: you need only have ##g(y)## continuous at ##y_0 = \lim_{x \to x_0} f(x)##; the function ##f(x)## need not be continuous (or even defined) at ##x = x_0##. Basically, that is the case you have, with ##x_0 = \infty##.

After that (or, maybe before that) you need to worry about the question "are my functions continuous?""
 
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