Line Integral Homework: How to Solve for the Total Length of a Curve

In summary, the homework statement is trying to explain what the line integral is. It can be used to calculate the length of a curve, but it depends on the function that is being integrated. If the function is linear, then the line integral is simply the length of the curve between the two points being evaluated. If the function is nonlinear, then the line integral can be more complicated.
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Homework Statement


i'm not sure what is line integral...
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Homework Equations

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Does it mean total length of line under the curve?
 
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chetzread said:

Homework Statement


i'm not sure what is line integral...
pcE0VBo.jpg


Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Does it mean total length of line under the curve?
If f(x,y,z) = 1, then the line integral of this function over the curve C will give the arc length between a and b. If f(x,y,z) is some other function, this won't be the case.
 
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SteamKing said:
If f(x,y,z) = 1, then the line integral of this function over the curve C will give the arc length between a and b. If f(x,y,z) is some other function, this won't be the case.
If f(x,y,z) is some other function , what would it be?
 
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chetzread said:
If f(x,y,z) is some other function , what would it be?
Who knows?

Not every line integral is imbued with deep physical meaning.
 
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If for example ##f(x,y,z)## is the density per unit length of a wire, say in kg/m, then the integral ##\int_C f(x,y,z)~ds## would represent the total kg for the wire.
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If for example ##f(x,y,z)## is the density per unit length of a wire, say in kg/m, then the integral ##\int_C f(x,y,z)~ds## would represent the total kg for the wire.
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Then, how about s( in the first photo in first post) only ? It represents the total length of curve?
 
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chetzread said:
Then, how about s( in the first photo in first post) only ? It represents the total length of curve?
No. s is the cumulative distance along the curve, starting from a specified location.

What they are doing here is defining the locus of points along a curve in space by specifying each of the three coordinates x, y, and z as a continuous parametric function of a parameter t.
x = x(t)
y = y(t)
z = z (t)
Specifying a value for t determines the coordinates of any particular point along the curve.

Consider two closely neighboring points along the curve that are situated at t and at t + dt. The differences in the x, y, and z coordinates of these two points are given by:
##dx = x(t+dt)-x(t)=\frac{dx}{dt}dt##
##dy = y(t+dt)-y(t)=\frac{dy}{dt}dt##
##dz = z(t+dt)-z(t)=\frac{dz}{dt}dt##
The spatial distance ds between the two neighboring points along the curve is given by the Pythagorean Theorem:
$$(ds)^2=(dx)^2+(dy)^2+(dz)^2=\left[\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)^2+\left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)^2+\left(\frac{dz}{dt}\right)^2\right](dt^2)$$
If you want to find the contour integral of a function f(x,y,z) between two points along the space curve, you want to be integrating f ds. This is the same as$$\int_{t_1}^{t_2}{f\left(x(t),y(t),z(t)\right)\sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)^2+\left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)^2+\left(\frac{dz}{dt}\right)^2}dt}$$
 
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1. What is a line integral?

A line integral is a type of integral used to calculate the total length of a curve. It involves integrating a function over a given path, which can be a curve or a line segment.

2. How do I solve for the total length of a curve using a line integral?

To solve for the total length of a curve using a line integral, you need to divide the curve into small segments and then integrate the function over each segment. Finally, you add up all the individual lengths to get the total length of the curve.

3. What is the formula for calculating a line integral?

The formula for calculating a line integral is: ∫ab √(1 + (dy/dx)2) dx, where a and b are the starting and ending points of the curve.

4. Can line integrals only be used to find the length of a curve?

No, line integrals can also be used to calculate other quantities such as work, mass, and electric flux. The formula may vary depending on the quantity being calculated, but the basic concept remains the same.

5. Are there any special cases where line integrals cannot be used?

Yes, line integrals cannot be used for curves that are not smooth, meaning that they have sharp corners or discontinuities. In such cases, other methods such as arc length parameterization or piecewise integration may be used to calculate the length of the curve.

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