Linear Algebra Nonparallel vector Proof

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of nonparallel vectors in linear algebra, specifically addressing two statements involving linear combinations of vectors. The original poster is seeking guidance on how to approach these proofs, particularly in understanding the implications of nonparallelism.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts a proof by contradiction for the first part, questioning the validity of assuming nonzero coefficients for the linear combination. Some participants suggest that this approach is valid and encourage further exploration of the implications of nonparallel vectors.

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Participants are engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing supportive feedback and suggesting methods to clarify the proof structure. There is an indication of productive discussion as participants build on each other's ideas, particularly regarding the second part of the problem.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about proof-based mathematics and is looking for foundational understanding. There is an emphasis on the definitions of parallel and nonparallel vectors, which are central to the proofs being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Suppose x, y \in\Re^{n} are nonparallel vectors.
a) Prove that if sx+ty=0, then s=t=0
b) Prove that if ax+by=cx+dy, then a=c and b=d

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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm very new to proof-based math, so I'm just trying to get my feet wet here. I realize this is a very simple problem, but I was hoping someone could walk me through it.

Assuming s\neq0, then sx=-ty. Thus, x=(-t/s)y, which goes against the definition of nonparallel vectors. (Two vectors are parallel if they can be written with scalar constant. i.e. x=cy or y=cx). So, as a result, we know s\neq0 must not be possible. Using similar logic, t=0 cannot be possible, either. Therefore, s=t=0.

I realize this is incredibly rough; I'm just looking to see if my thinking is on the right track.

Thanks!
 
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SMG75 said:

Homework Statement


Suppose x, y \in\Re^{n} are nonparallel vectors.
a) Prove that if sx+ty=0, then s=t=0
b) Prove that if ax+by=cx+dy, then a=c and b=d


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I'm very new to proof-based math, so I'm just trying to get my feet wet here. I realize this is a very simple problem, but I was hoping someone could walk me through it.

Assuming s\neq0, then sx=-ty. Thus, x=(-t/s)y, which goes against the definition of nonparallel vectors. (Two vectors are parallel if they can be written with scalar constant. i.e. x=cy or y=cx). So, as a result, we know s\neq0 must not be possible. Using similar logic, t=0 cannot be possible, either. Therefore, s=t=0.

I realize this is incredibly rough; I'm just looking to see if my thinking is on the right track.
You're on the right track. What you're doing is a proof by contradiction, which is where you prove that P == Q by assuming that P is true and that Q is false. If you arrive at a contradiction, then you have indirectly proved that P ==> Q.

For this problem you should assume that both s and t are nonzero. That way you can show that x = (-t/s) y and that y = (-s/t) x. Since, by assumption x and y are nonparallel, you have arrived at a contradiction.
 
For the second part, group the x terms together and the y terms together.
 
Notice also that for the second problem, you may find it helpful to use the result of the previous problem. The proof will follow quite naturally from this. Good work so far!
 

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