Linear algebra ordered basis problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the β and γ coordinates of a given vector in the context of linear algebra, specifically relating to ordered bases and vector transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of ordered bases and how to express a vector as a linear combination of these bases. They question the significance of the β and γ coordinates and their relationship to the vector x. Another participant shares their approach to solving the problem by setting up an equation involving the β coordinates, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their solution.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the concepts involved and explore different interpretations of the problem. Some participants are actively seeking guidance, while others have made attempts to solve the problem but remain unsure of their results.

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Participants mention confusion regarding the role of the vector x in relation to the transformations defined by the β and γ bases, as well as the implications of having three vectors in each basis.

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1. The problem statement

find the β coordinates ([x]β) and γ coordinates ([x]γ) of the vector x = \begin{pmatrix}-1\\-13\\<br /> 9\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> \in\mathbb R

if {β= \begin{pmatrix}-1\\4\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}3\\-1\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}2\\-5\\<br /> 1\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}} and {γ= \begin{pmatrix}3\\-1\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}1\\4\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}2\\-5\\<br /> 1\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}}3. The Attempt at a Solution

i read my notes and as i understood it, an ordered basis is the linear combination that you use to obtain a specific vector in a vector space. I am not clear on the beta and gamma coordinates,
and i can't understand why the β and γ basis includes 3 vectors? I am thinking on the lines that x is obtained through a combination between the β coordinates and the given β , but that does not get me anywhere. please someone point me in the right direction! thank you

edit : ok i understand that β times the β coordinates would give the vector before the transformation, and γ
times the γ coordinates give the vector after transformation. but what exactly is x then? the vector before transformation or the vector after transformation?
 
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ok i have finally managed to get an answer for this question but I am not sure of it at all, this is what i did

[β]x(a,b,c,d) = x where (a,b,c,d) is the beta coordinate of x

and i solved this equation and ended up getting some values for a b c and d which i wrote down as the β coordinates. is this wrong?
 
our instructor solved this problem so anyone want to know the solution just let me know :)
 
priyathh said:
our instructor solved this problem so anyone want to know the solution just let me know :)
I would like to know.
 

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