Linear Algebra with Proof by Contradiction

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The discussion revolves around a linear algebra problem requiring a proof by contradiction. The original poster is tasked with proving that if the union of two subspaces of a vector space V is itself a subspace, then one of the subspaces must be contained within the other.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to establish a proof by contradiction, questioning the implications of their statements and the relationships between the subspaces. Participants discuss the validity of conclusions drawn from contradictions and the structure of conditional proofs.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the proof structure and discussing the nature of contradictions. There is an exploration of the implications of the proof steps, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final conclusions.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of proof by contradiction and the nuances of conditional statements within the context of linear algebra. There is an emphasis on understanding the logical flow of the proof and the assumptions involved.

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This is a linear algebra question which I am confused.

1. Homework Statement


Prove that "if the union of two subspaces of ##V## is a subspace of ##V##, then one of the subspaces is contained in the other".

The Attempt at a Solution



Suppose ##U##, ##W## are subspaces of ##V##. ##U \cup W## is a subspace of ##V##. (statement A)

Suppose ##U## is not contained in ##W## and vice versa. (statement B)

Let ##u \in U, \not\in W## and ##w \in W, \not\in U##.

##u \in U \cup W, w \in U \cup W##
##u + w \in U \cup W##
##u + w \in U## or ##u + w \in W##

Suppose ##u + w \in U## (statement C)

##u + w + (-u) \in U##
##w \in U##
It leads to contradiction.

Which one does it conclude? (if A is true, then B is false) or (if A and B are true, then C is false)
 
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It's the second one: (if A and B are true, then C is false)

Since you have proven C false, you can conclude that ##u+v\in W##. By similar steps to before you can also conclude that that is false.

You can then, with a few more steps, conclude that at least one of A or B must be false.

Arguments of this kind are much easier to understand and control if you grasp the notion of Conditional Proof or sub-proof. Every time you make a new assumption, you are opening a new sub-proof. When you reach a contradiction, you close that sub-proof, concluding the opposite of the assumption that you used to open it. It is not unusual to have several nested levels of proof. In your case there are three levels.
 
For the proof by contradiction about ##\sqrt 2## is a irrational number, we conclude that it is true once we find the contradiction.
In this case, why can't I conclude that ##u + v \in W## is true?

Is ##not (u + v \in U) = u + v \in W## wrong?
 
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Devil Moo said:
In this case, why can't I conclude that ##u + v \in W## is true?
You can. Read the second line of my post again.

Then you go on to prove that it is also false, which is a second contradiction, which tells you that either A or B must be false.
 

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