Linear expansion of steel versus copper with increasing temperature

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The discussion focuses on the linear expansion of steel and copper with temperature changes, utilizing the formula L = L0 (1 + α * ΔT). The coefficients of linear expansion for steel (11 x 10^-6) and copper (17 x 10^-6) are applied to a temperature change of 135°C. Participants clarify that the initial length (L0) is 10 cm at an initial temperature of 15°C, leading to a comparison of the lengths at both 15°C and 150°C. The consensus is that the problem provides sufficient information to solve for the expansion of both materials.

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Homework Statement
Two engine components, made of steel and copper, are each 10 cm in length and are fixed so that they are only free to expend towards one another, so closing the gap between them as temperature rises. Calculate the clearance between them when the engine is at 15°C if there is to be a gap of 1 mm between them when the engine is at its running temperature of 150°C.

Linear expansivity of steel = 11 * 10^-6 per kelvin
Linear expansivity of copper = 17 * 10^-6 per kelvin
Relevant Equations
ẟL / Lo = α * ẟT
L = Lo (1+ α * ẟT)

ẟL = change in length
Lo = original length
L = new length
α = linear expansivity
ẟT = change in temperature
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What I've attempted -

L = Lo (1+ α * ẟT)

ẟT = 150°C - 15°C = 135°C
(Steel) L = ẟL (1 + 11 * 10^-6 * 135)
(Copper) L = ẟL (1 + 17 * 10^-6 * 135)
This doesn't get me anywhere, obviously.

Am I supposed to understand from the task that the temperature is 15°C when the two engine components are 10cm length? Because then the task is rather simple. But I don't see it being implied in any way.

Thanks!
 
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Try it with L = 10 cm at 15°C, and again with L = 10 cm at 150°C. See if there is any significant difference in the answer.
 
Eerik said:
What I've attempted -

L = Lo (1+ α * ẟT)

This equation is correct. But it’s easier to write

##\delta L=L_0\alpha \delta T##
 
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My reading of the problem is that you should combine the first and second diagrams (known initial length + known initial temperature). Generally, with simple questions like this, you have all the information for one condition and partial information for another condition.
 
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