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The discussion revolves around the intersection of planes in three-dimensional space, specifically focusing on determining whether given planes intersect and the nature of those intersections. The subject area includes vector mathematics and geometric interpretations of equations representing planes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the intersection of two planes and the conditions under which they intersect, including the use of normal vectors and parametric equations. They also explore the geometric interpretation of the intersection of three planes and the implications of the triple dot product.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the problem statements and the methods for solving them. There are indications of attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the intersection results, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the interpretations or solutions.

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Participants note teacher comments indicating errors in the original attempts and the need for further exploration of the intersection points. There is mention of algebraic techniques and matrix methods for solving the system of equations, but no specific solutions are provided.

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NEED CORRECTION, also this . means dot multiplication.

My teacher comments:

#6) you've made some errors (-2 marks)

#8) correct, they intersect at a point, but you need to find the point like you did in #7 for full marks (-3 marks)


6.Determine the intersection, if any, of the planes with equations x + y – z + 12 =0 and 2x + 4y - 3z + 8 = 0.

The normal vectors for the two planes are (1, 1, -1) and (2, 4, -3).
- These vectors are not collinear therefore the planes intersect in a line.
x+y-z = -12 (1)
2x+4y-3z = -8(2)

-3(1) + 2: -x + y = 28 = x+28
Let x = t.
y = t+28
Substituting in (1)
One of the either answers=>
t+t+28-z = -12 or z = 2t+40.
The parametric equations for the line of intersection are
x = t, y = 28+t, z = 40+2t.

8. Give a geometrical interpretation of the intersection of the planes with equations
x + y − 3 = 0
y + z + 5 = 0
x + z + 2 = 0
N1= (1, 1, 0) N2= (0, 1, 1), N3= (1, 0, 1)
N1 x N2
= ((1,1,0) x (0,1,1)) . (1,0,1)
= (1,-1,1) . (1,0,1)
=2
(N1 x N2) . N3 ≠ 0
Since the triple dot product does not equal to 0, then these three planes must intersect in a single point.
 
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livestrong136 said:
NEED CORRECTION, also this . means dot multiplication.

My teacher comments:

#6) you've made some errors (-2 marks)

#8) correct, they intersect at a point, but you need to find the point like you did in #7 for full marks (-3 marks)


6.Determine the intersection, if any, of the planes with equations x + y – z + 12 =0 and 2x + 4y - 3z + 8 = 0.

The normal vectors for the two planes are (1, 1, -1) and (2, 4, -3).
- These vectors are not collinear therefore the planes intersect in a line.
x+y-z = -12 (1)
2x+4y-3z = -8(2)

-3(1) + 2: -x + y = 28 = x+28
Let x = t.
y = t+28
Substituting in (1)
One of the either answers=>
t+t+28-z = -12 or z = 2t+40.
The parametric equations for the line of intersection are
x = t, y = 28+t, z = 40+2t.

8. Give a geometrical interpretation of the intersection of the planes with equations
x + y − 3 = 0
y + z + 5 = 0
x + z + 2 = 0
N1= (1, 1, 0) N2= (0, 1, 1), N3= (1, 0, 1)
N1 x N2
= ((1,1,0) x (0,1,1)) . (1,0,1)
= (1,-1,1) . (1,0,1)
=2
(N1 x N2) . N3 ≠ 0
Since the triple dot product does not equal to 0, then these three planes must intersect in a single point.

For #8 you have a system of 3 equations in 3 variables. You can solve the equations using algebraic techniques, or you can write the equations as an augmented matrix, and then row reduce the matrix.
 
? I am confused
 
livestrong136 said:
? I am confused
Saying that you are confused doesn't help. What are you confused about?
 

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