Liquid-fulled rocket engine efficency.

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Acceleration during S-IC flight improved due to reduced propellant mass and enhanced thrust from F-1 engine efficiency in thinner air at higher altitudes. The decrease in atmospheric pressure allows for better performance of rocket nozzles, with specific designs optimized for varying altitudes. As altitude increases, both thrust and specific impulse (Isp) benefit from reduced drag and pressure thrust contributions. This phenomenon is illustrated by the difference in thrust generation when a pressurized container is opened in space compared to at ground level. Overall, the discussion highlights the relationship between altitude, atmospheric pressure, and rocket engine efficiency.
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"Acceleration increased during S-IC flight for two reasons: decreasing propellant mass; and increasing thrust as F-1 engine efficiency improved in the thinner air at altitude."

This is from Wikipedia, so who knows. Why would a thiner atmosphere increase the thrust efficency of the engine? Something to do with the ullage space in the tanks not needing to be filled with atmosphere?
 
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I don't know whether or not this would be considered 'engine efficiency', but obviously aerodynamic drag decreases with altitude.
Also, rocket nozzles have specific air-pressure ranges at which they work best. Bell-shapes work better lower, while conical ones are better in thinner air.
 
It's mostly due to the pressure thrust. As altitude increases and atmospheric pressure decreases, there is a contribution to the thrust due to static pressure at the exit of the nozzle. Both thrust and Isp increase with altitude.
 
FredGarvin said:
It's mostly due to the pressure thrust. As altitude increases and atmospheric pressure decreases, there is a contribution to the thrust due to static pressure at the exit of the nozzle. Both thrust and Isp increase with altitude.

Ah, this makes sense. You can imagine a 1atm pressurized container. Opening this on the ground does nothing. Opening this in space would create thrust. Thanks!
 
Due to the constant never ending supply of "cool stuff" happening in Aerospace these days I'm creating this thread to consolidate posts every time something new comes along. Please feel free to add random information if its relevant. So to start things off here is the SpaceX Dragon launch coming up shortly, I'll be following up afterwards to see how it all goes. :smile: https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacex/
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