Listing Possible RREF Matrix Combinations

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying all possible combinations of reduced row echelon form (RREF) matrices for a 2 x 3 matrix using the values 1, 0, and a placeholder for any number. The original poster seeks clarification on the number of combinations and the underlying principles governing RREF for matrices of this size.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring how to derive a formula for the number of RREF combinations for an m x n matrix. There is discussion about constraints that apply to such matrices and the potential for overcounting combinations. Some participants question the original poster's count of 13 combinations and suggest that certain cases may be subsumed by others.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and questioning assumptions about counting methods. There is a suggestion that a general formula may yield a different count for the 2 x 3 case, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there are specific constraints and rules that apply to the formation of RREF matrices, and the original poster is encouraged to show their attempts as per forum guidelines.

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Homework Statement


Using the values 1, 0, and *(to represent any number), list all the possible combinations that could result from performing reduced row echelon form on a 2 x 3 matrix.




Homework Equations


Instructor 2 x 2 matrix example:
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The Attempt at a Solution


I have found 13 different combinations:
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but we have no examples beyond the 2 x 2 matrix so I haven't been able to attempt to model an equation(since I can't find a theorem or definition that models this) to predict the number of combinations I should find for a 2 x 3 matrix.

Any help in determining if this is the correct amount of combinations for a 2 x 3 matrix that has been simplified to RREF or what ones I may be missing would be appreciated.
 
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how to find all possible rref matrix for m*n matrix. how I create a formula for m*n matrix
 
Aryan patel said:
how to find all possible rref matrix for m*n matrix. how I create a formula for m*n matrix
Start by listing all the constraints that apply to such a matrix.

By the way, I believe @MDS was overcounting in the 2x3 case. You should not count separately a case which can be got by replacing some * with 0s and 1s from another case.
E.g
1**
000
subsumes
100
000

For 2x3, the general formula I get gives 7.
 
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Dhruv shrivastava said:
@haruspex what's your general formula
Do you also have this question as homework? If so, you need to show some attempt, per forum rules.
 

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