Log Derivative of a Function: Find Derivatives of f(c,l) with Example"

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivatives of the function f(c,l) = log(c - ψ(1-l)θ) with respect to the variables l and c. Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule in the context of logarithmic differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule and the derivative of the logarithmic function. There is an attempt to clarify the correct form of the derivatives with respect to both variables, and some participants express uncertainty about their results due to issues with parentheses.

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The conversation includes attempts to verify derivative calculations and correct potential mistakes. Some participants acknowledge errors in their expressions and seek clarification on proper notation, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus on the final derivatives.

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There is mention of the importance of proper parentheses in mathematical expressions, which may affect the correctness of the derivatives being discussed. The original poster and others reflect on how notation can impact grading in assignments.

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Homework Statement



f(c,l) = log(c - ψ(1-l)^θ )

What is the derivative of this function wrt. l and c?

Homework Equations



I know that the derivative of log (x) = 1/x

The Attempt at a Solution



I got wrt c:

1/ c - ψ(1-l)θ

and wrt l: θψ(1-l)^θ-1 / c - ψ(1-l)^θ
 
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Remember the chain rule.
##\frac{d}{dt} f(g(t)) =f'(g(t)) * g'(t). ##
If log is your f, and the stuff inside is your g, your first part, f'(g) would be ##\frac{1}{c-\psi (1-l)^\theta}##. Then you will need to multiply by the derivative of g wrt. whichever variable you are looking at.

edit: This may very well be what you did, but without proper parentheses, I can't tell.
 
Thak you. Yes, that is wahrt I did.
 
beaf123 said:

Homework Statement



f(c,l) = log(c - ψ(1-l)^θ )

What is the derivative of this function wrt. l and c?

Homework Equations



I know that the derivative of log (x) = 1/x

The Attempt at a Solution



I got wrt c:

1/ c - ψ(1-l)θ

and wrt l: θψ(1-l)^θ-1 / c - ψ(1-l)^θ

Those are wrong: you should not be getting
f_c(c,l) = \frac{1}{c} - \psi(1-l) \theta
which is exactly what you wrote.
 
Yeah. I messed up the paranthesis. Thanks for telling me what I should not be getting though
 
beaf123 said:
Yeah. I messed up the paranthesis. Thanks for telling me what I should not be getting though

Well, maybe with proper parentheses, and fixing up ##(1-l)^{\theta}##, your result could be correct. It would be a shame to lose marks on an assignment by not using parentheses when it really takes little extra time.
 

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