Looking for help with equilibrium physics

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a spring scale and two equal masses in equilibrium. Participants clarify that the spring scale measures the tension in the string, which is equal to the gravitational force acting on one mass. The tension does not add from both sides; instead, it reflects the force exerted by one mass due to the equilibrium condition. A diagram of the setup helps participants understand the forces at play better. Ultimately, the tension in the cable, which the spring scale reads, is crucial for solving the problem.
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The system shown below are in equilibrium with m = 4.50 kg. If the spring scale is calibrated in Newtons, what does it read? (Ignore the masses of the pulleys and strings, and assume the incline is frictionless.)

There is a picture on this question but the best thing I can do is to describe it for you.
There are two equal masses on each side of the table supporting by its' pulleys. Each mass is attached to each end of the spring scale.

I'm kind of lost on this question. Does the two objects pull the spring scale in both directions, left and right, creating a force of 88.29N (F=2*ma=2*(4.50kg*9.81m/s^2))? Can anyone help me out on this question?
 
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I don't have a clear picture of the entire setup, nonetheless...

The spring scale will read the tension in the string where it's attached. A force equal to that tension will be exerted on each end of the scale, but they don't add.
 
Doc Al said:
I don't have a clear picture of the entire setup, nonetheless...

The spring scale will read the tension in the string where it's attached. A force equal to that tension will be exerted on each end of the scale, but they don't add.

Does this mean the force on one mass is really the tension exerted by two masses pulling each other?
 
shiri said:
Does this mean the force on one mass is really the tension exerted by two masses pulling each other?
I don't quite understand your question. If a mass is attached to a rope, one of the forces on the mass will be the tension force exerted by the rope. If that rope attaches to both masses, then it exerts the tension force on each.

If possible, can you scan in a diagram?

Is the table horizontal? Is there an incline involved?
 
Doc Al said:
I don't quite understand your question. If a mass is attached to a rope, one of the forces on the mass will be the tension force exerted by the rope. If that rope attaches to both masses, then it exerts the tension force on each.

If possible, can you scan in a diagram?

Is the table horizontal? Is there an incline involved?

yeah...here's the diagram
 

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Cool. A diagram is very helpful.

As I had said, the scale will read the tension in the cable. And since everything is in equilibrium, what must that tension equal?
 
Doc Al said:
Cool. A diagram is very helpful.

As I had said, the scale will read the tension in the cable. And since everything is in equilibrium, what must that tension equal?

thanks Doc Al, now I know the answer for this question
 
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