Low Signal Amplification: OP-07 & LM324 Preamp

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Op-amps like the OP-07 can amplify low signals, but their noise levels, especially in general-purpose models like the LM324, may hinder performance at microvolt levels. The use of a pull-up resistor in the circuit helps to bias the op-amp input, ensuring a defined reference voltage and preventing charge trapping in the input capacitor. While low-noise op-amps exist, achieving low distortion and noise in practical applications often leads to complex circuit designs. Discussions also highlight the challenges of using unconventional transistor preamps, with mixed opinions on their effectiveness compared to op-amps. Overall, while op-amps can work for low signals, careful consideration of noise and circuit design is crucial for optimal performance.
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Here is the SPICE model (see thumbnails) of the common-emitter version of the weird amp. The low frequency response is very sensitive to the capacitor bypass on the two emitters. With 4.7k emitter resistors (corresponding to about 1 mA collector current per transistor), the bypass had to be about 1000 uF to make the frequency response flat with minimal phase shift.
For posting these thumbnails from SPICE, I do a Print Screen of each SPICE image, paste them into Power Point, and save them as jpg.
Bob S
[Edit] As before, this circuit requires a floating 9V battery.
 

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Here is a redo of the common-emitter amplifier circuit in the previous post, except that the 9-volt battery has been separated from the collector signals, and the power supply bypassed to ground, so now this circuit can be coupled to a ground-referenced dc supply. Performance is about the same.
 

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  • #33
Thanks Bob, great simulations.

The second one looks a little more friendly although I find it hard to get away from a ground-referenced way of thinking.
I'm just a little worried that this may be a simulator artefact.

Did you get an idea of the input impedance for each common emitter setup?
 
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Here are some numbers for the last circuit. I put a resistor in series with the input voltage source, and found the corresponding output amplitudes:

0 ohms, -23.0 dB (below 1 volt)
1k ohms, -25.3 dB
2k ohms, -26.3 dB
5k ohms, -29.9 dB
10 k ohms, -33.7 dB

So 5K-ohm series input impedance is about half amplitude (6 dB down).

In the dc operating point measurement, the positive and negative rails are +3.76 volts and -5.24 volts, meaning the input would have a dc offset if the circuit runs on ground-referenced power supplies, so an input offset balance pot might be needed.

[Edit] I put two center-grounded 4.5 volt power supplies in series to replace the 9-volt battery, and the offset voltage across a 5k series input resistor was 6.8 mV, so there is an input bias current of 1.4 microamps.
Bob S
 
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