Magnetic Force from Current Loops: Relativistic Treatment

In summary, this experiment shows that the magnetic field is a result of the current in a wire loop. Near the center of the loop, the field is maximum.
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There are plenty of examples where someone derives the magnetic force from a current carrying wire on a moving charged particle by looking at the frame of the particle and finding that the current has Lorentz contracted in such a way as to produce an electric field in an otherwise neutral wire. They then say that magnetism can be deduced from just electrostatics and SR.

Has anybody ever seen this done for a wire loop? Or for, say, an electron orbiting a nucleus a la crude model for magnetic dipole?
 
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My understanding, based on some remarks by Jackson in "Classical Electrodynamics" (that I'd have to hunt down to quote exactly), expressed simply (I hope it's not oversimple, but won't guarantee that) is that you can't sensibly assume that the only force between charges is the 1/r^2 coulomb force and get consistent results when you apply the Lorentz transform to transform the forces to a different frame. The details of a formal derivation would involve knowing how forces are "supposed" to transform, which would require a bit of a diversion into 4-vectors and tensor transformation laws and the idea of covariance, which seems to loos a lot of the audience :(.

The magnetic field is one of the simplest ways of "fixing" the coulomb force law (by adding additional force terms) to get a force law that transforms properly via the Lorentz transform.

A more technical way of making what is supposed to be the same point: The lorenz force law F = q(E + vxB) is covariant, the coulomb force law F = q/r^2 is not covariant.

So something has to be added to the electric field to make electromagnetism consistint with the Lorentz transform, the simplest thing to add is just what Maxwell's equations add, the magnetic field.
 
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When we derive the magnetic force from a current carrying straight wire, the "straight wire" is actually a small segment of a large loop, isn't it?
 
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Thanks for that bcrowell, that was a useful thread.

This is what I came up with:
Circular loop-page1.jpg


I bent a uniform linear charge density in a circle such that each charge is experiencing uniform circular motion. Two, actually, a positive one going clockwise, and a negative one going counter clockwise. Thus, the total current is 2 λ v in the CW direction.

Then, I wanted to represent this relativistically, so I built a four vector for both charge densities. Normally, they would be represented by Jα, but since these are linear charge densities, I use Iα:

$$I_{+}^{\alpha}=\lambda^{+}\left(c,-v\sin\phi,v\cos\phi,0\right)$$ and $$I_{-}^{\alpha}=-\lambda^{+}\left(c,v\sin\phi,-v\cos\phi,0\right)$$ which can be combined to find $$I_{tot}^{\alpha}=I_{+}^{\alpha}+I_{-}^{\alpha}= 2\lambda^+ v\left(0,-\sin\phi, \cos \phi,0\right)$$.

Near the center of the loop, close to the axis, the magnetic field is given by ##B=\frac{\mu_0 I}{2r}## with ##I=2\lambda^{+}v##. The zero in the first term of the four-vector shows that there is no net charge density, and thus no electric field anywhere.

What does this loop look like when boosted in the +x-direction (to the right in the figure) at speed ##u##? Simply perform the Lorentz transform ##L^{\alpha}_{\beta}I^{\beta}_{tot}## to obtain

$$I_{tot}^{' \alpha}=2\lambda^{+}v(\beta_{u}\gamma_{u}\sin\phi,\gamma_{u}\sin\phi, v\cos\phi,0)$$.

Looking at this carefully, we identify ##\lambda^{'}=\frac{I^{'0}_{tot}}{c}=\frac{2\lambda u v \gamma_u}{c^2}\sin\phi##. The ##\sin\phi## makes it so there is a varying amount of charge density that increases to a maximum at the bottom and top of the loop.

Any comments would be appreciated, but as this was ages ago I expect most people have moved on.
 

Related to Magnetic Force from Current Loops: Relativistic Treatment

1. What is the magnetic force from current loops?

The magnetic force from current loops refers to the force that is exerted on a charged particle as it moves through a magnetic field created by a current-carrying loop. This force is perpendicular to both the direction of the current and the direction of the particle's motion.

2. How is the magnetic force from current loops affected by relativity?

According to the theory of relativity, the magnetic force from current loops is affected by the relative motion between the charged particle and the current-carrying loop. At speeds close to the speed of light, the magnetic force is stronger and can even change the trajectory of the particle.

3. What is the difference between the classical and relativistic treatments of magnetic force from current loops?

The classical treatment of magnetic force from current loops only considers the motion of the charged particle and the magnetic field created by the loop. The relativistic treatment takes into account the effects of relativity on the magnetic force, such as length contraction and time dilation.

4. How is the magnetic force from current loops calculated in the relativistic treatment?

In the relativistic treatment, the magnetic force from current loops is calculated using the Lorentz force equation, which takes into account the electric and magnetic fields produced by the current loop, as well as the relativistic effects on the charged particle's motion.

5. What are some real-world applications of the relativistic treatment of magnetic force from current loops?

The relativistic treatment of magnetic force from current loops has many practical applications, such as in high-energy particle accelerators and the design of magnetic confinement systems for nuclear fusion reactors. It is also essential for understanding the behavior of charged particles in space, such as in the Earth's magnetosphere.

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