Magnetostatic field calculations

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field generated by a current flowing through a symmetrical loop composed of a semicircle and a triangle. Participants explore the applicability of Gauss's law, Ampere's law, and the Biot-Savart law, concluding that Biot-Savart is the most suitable due to the lack of sufficient symmetry for the other methods. Calculations are presented for both the semicircular and triangular sections of the loop, with emphasis on using superposition to combine results. Some participants point out potential errors in the calculations, such as missing factors and the need to clarify the arc length used in the semicircle. The thread concludes with requests for review and confirmation of the solution's accuracy.
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Homework Statement


Current, I, flows around symmetrical loop of thin wire.
The loop comprises 2 halves (semicircle & triangle). Distance from vertex of triangle equals radius, a, of the semicircle.
Find the mag' field at axis of loop (where axes coss)


Homework Equations


Could I use Gauss' law ∫s E.dS= 1/εov ρ(r) dv
Amperes law ∫c B . dl
Or is this just as easy to do wit Biot-Savart Law δB(r) = . . . . . . . . .

I have a good feeling that I can use symmetry to simplify this without getting too bogged down in maths.

Which of these are the ones I could use most?


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Gauss' law involves electric field rather than magnetic field. So, punt on that one.

I'm having some difficulty visualizing the loop. But, it appears to me that there is not enough symmetry to use Ampere's law. Ampere's law is useful if you can construct an imaginary closed path that:
(1) passes through the point where you are trying to find the field
(2) B\cdotdl has a simple form for the path.
I don't think you can find a path that meets both these criteria.

So, you're left with Biot-Savart. However, if you've already covered the field of a complete circular loop of wire, then you can use that as a shortcut to get the field from the semicircular part of your loop. Also, if you've already covered the field of a finite, straight section of current, then you can use that result along with superposition to get the field from the straight sides of the triangle.
 
Hmmm! Have tried the problem & have a solution if someone would review it.

Thank you

Split composite loop into 2 parts (one semicicular one of 2 sides of a square)

For semicircle:
B = (μ0*I)/(4*∏*R2) ∫ dL where R = a
= (μ0*I)/(4*∏*R2) 2*∏*R2
= (μ0*I)/(2*R)


For 2 side of a square:
B = (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (sinθ1 - sinθ2) where r = 0.707*a & θ1=-θ2=/4
= (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (sin(∏/4) - sin(∏/4))
= (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (√2/2 + √2/2)
= √2 ((μ0*I)/(4*∏*0.707a))


so Btotal = (μ0*I)/(2*R) + √2 ((μ0*I)/(4*∏*0.707a))

I feel that there's something I haven't done, or missed something or . . . . . . .
 
Roodles01 said:
Hmmm! Have tried the problem & have a solution if someone would review it.

Thank you

Split composite loop into 2 parts (one semicicular one of 2 sides of a square)

For semicircle:
B = (μ0*I)/(4*∏*R2) ∫ dL where R = a
= (μ0*I)/(4*∏*R2) 2*∏*R2

I believe the square on the R at the very end is just a typo. But ∫ dL should be the arc length of the semicircle, not a full circle.

For 2 side of a square:
B = (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (sinθ1 - sinθ2) where r = 0.707*a & θ1=-θ2=/4
= (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (sin(∏/4) - sin(∏/4))
= (2*μ0*I)/(4*∏*r) (√2/2 + √2/2)
= √2 ((μ0*I)/(4*∏*0.707a))

Look's good except I think you dropped a factor of 2 in going from the next-to-last to the last equation. Also, it will simplify nicely if you write the factor of .707 in the denominator as √2/2.
 
Thanks for the read through &comment.
 
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