Magnitude of electric field between two concentric oppositely charged

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The discussion revolves around the magnitude of the electric field between two concentric oppositely charged spheres, focusing on the relationship between electric potential and electric field strength.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the electric field equation E=V/d, questioning the meaning of 'r' in the context of the electric field formula E=Q/(4πεr²). Some participants suggest defining 'r' within the bounds of the two spheres, while others reference Gauss's law to clarify the relationship between electric field and potential.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the electric field equations and discussing the validity of the original poster's approach. Guidance has been offered regarding the application of Gauss's law and the appropriate context for using E=V/d.

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The original poster expresses confusion regarding the application of the electric field equation for spherical charges and the definition of variables involved, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying principles of electric fields.

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Magnitude of electric field between two concentric oppositely charged spheres.

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So I first went with the simple electric field equation E=V/d

So I have the potential difference V between the two sphere surfaces. I can't do Latex but hyperphysics has it anyway:

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So I know V.
And surely, in E=V/d, the distance d is simply b-a.

So finally I sub my V and d into the equation and I'm left with:

E = Q/(4πεab)

Which looks reasonable enough.. But all sources on the Internet tell me that the answer is simply:

E=Q/4πεr2

The real confusing thing for me here is... What is 'r' ? What is it the radius from? The radius from the centre? Or from the surface of the inner sphere? Or something else..??

I fear my problem may be with the fact that I used E=V/d, which is possibly only valid for charged plates, rather than spheres? Either way, I'm still a little confused about what the 'r' actually means in the correct answer.

Thanks for any guidance :thumbs:
 
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Should 'r' be defined such that:

a < r < b

?
 
The expression above the ##\Delta V## formula you show is that selfsame E=Q/(4πεr2) !
Read up on Gauss's theorem (ibidem, another two lines higher up, or Gauss's law)

Your E=V/d is a special case for a constant ##\vec E ## all over the place.
Otherwise (here for instance) ##\vec E = -\vec\nabla V##.

And r is simply the distance to the center.
 
Oh dear oh dear! So yeah I guess my main error was for the E=Vd part.

I've been taught about E = -∇V before, and yeah that makes perfect sense come to think of it.

Electric/Magnetic fields is certainly my weakest subject at the moment. Must study harder!

Thanks for showing me that :thumbs:
 

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