Magnitude of the flux through a rectangle

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric flux through a rectangle in the xz-plane with dimensions 2.0 cm × 3.5 cm, subjected to an electric field represented by the vector E⃗ =(150î−240ĵ) N/C. The key equation used is E.F. = E*A, where the area vector is normal to the surface. The confusion arises regarding the direction of the area vector and the treatment of the negative component in the electric field. It is clarified that the rectangle does not enclose a volume, leading to the convention of taking the positive value for the flux.

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Homework Statement
A 2.0 cm × 3.5 cm rectangle lies in the xz-plane.
What is the magnitude of the electric flux through the rectangle if E⃗ =(150ı^−240k^)N/C?
What is the magnitude of the electric flux through the rectangle if E⃗ =(150ı^−240ȷ^)N/C?
Relevant Equations
E.F. = E*A
I have attached the work to this problem and although it has different parameters than what I have listed in my post the basis to solving the problem is the same.

I am confused on why this rectangle in this problem is considered to b in the j unit vector direction. Is it because its face will face the j axis?
 

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quittingthecult said:
Homework Statement:: A 2.0 cm × 3.5 cm rectangle lies in the xz-plane.
What is the magnitude of the electric flux through the rectangle if E⃗ =(150ı^−240k^)N/C?
What is the magnitude of the electric flux through the rectangle if E⃗ =(150ı^−240ȷ^)N/C?
Relevant Equations:: E.F. = E*A

I have attached the work to this problem and although it has different parameters than what I have listed in my post the basis to solving the problem is the same.

I am confused on why this rectangle in this problem is considered to b in the j unit vector direction. Is it because its face will face the j axis?
The vector representing an area element is normal to the element, yes. If it is part of a surface enclosing a volume of interest then it point out of the volume.
Note that if the area element ##\vec {dS}## is translated along a vector element ##\vec {dr}## then the volume swept out is the dot product.
 
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haruspex said:
The vector representing an area element is normal to the element, yes. If it is part of a surface enclosing a volume of interest then it point out of the volume.
Note that if the area element ##\vec {dS}## is translated along a vector element ##\vec {dr}## then the volume swept out is the dot product.
So I know that If I dot product to different unit vectors I get 0, hence the part of the homework question I posted is 0.

The second part of the question, the electric field has a J component so I was able to multiply the area by the unit vector. My answer came out to be .168 N/C which is correct.

But I was wondering why do we omit the negative in the electric fields J component?
 
quittingthecult said:
But I was wondering why do we omit the negative in the electric fields J component?
Because a rectangle is a surface that encloses no volume, therefore the "outward normal" cannot be defined. In such cases, one takes the positive value for the flux by convention.
 

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