Mapping Functions: Is ∅ an Isomorphism?

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The problem involves determining whether a specific mapping, denoted as ∅, is an isomorphism between the set of functions with derivatives of all orders and the real numbers under addition. The mapping is defined as ∅(f) = f'(0), where the context is set within the structures {F,+} and {ℝ,+}.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to prove that the mapping is onto and one-to-one, with some questioning how to establish these properties. There are suggestions to evaluate specific functions and their derivatives at zero to explore injectivity. Some participants express confusion regarding the distinction between the derivative at zero and the function's value at zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various functions to test the mapping's properties. Some guidance has been offered regarding specific functions to consider, but there is no consensus on the approach or resolution of confusion regarding the derivative versus the function value.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion around the definitions and properties of the mapping, particularly in relation to the derivative at zero and the function's value at zero. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in understanding the requirements for proving isomorphism.

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Homework Statement


Let F be the set of all functions f mapping ℝ into ℝ that have derivatives of all orders. Determine whether the given map ∅ is an isomorphism of the first binary structure with the second.

{F,+} with {ℝ,+} where ∅(f)=f'(0)

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If I have to determine it is isomorphism, I have to prove it is onto and 1-1, but I'm not sure how to do that with ∅(f)=f'(0)
 
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taylor81792 said:

Homework Statement


Let F be the set of all functions f mapping ℝ into ℝ that have derivatives of all orders. Determine whether the given map ∅ is an isomorphism of the first binary structure with the second.

{F,+} with {ℝ,+} where ∅(f)=f'(0)

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None

The Attempt at a Solution


If I have to determine it is isomorphism, I have to prove it is onto and 1-1, but I'm not sure how to do that with ∅(f)=f'(0)

Is ∅ injective? (Same as asking if it's one-to-one). That is, does ∅ always send different functions to different reals?
 
i suggest taking a handful of functions, and calculating f'(0) for each of them.

possible candidates:

f(x) = xn (don't forget the special cases n = 0, and n = 1)
f(x) = ax + b
f(x) = sin(x)
f(x) = cos(x)

do any of these have the property that θ(f1) = θ(f2) but f1 ≠ f2?
 
so I would try doing f(x)=X^n. and then get 0^0 and 0^1? so the answers would be 1 and 0. I'm still a little bit confused
 
taylor81792 said:
so I would try doing f(x)=X^n. and then get 0^0 and 0^1? so the answers would be 1 and 0. I'm still a little bit confused

If that's confusing you, start with f(x)=x and f(x)=sin(x).
 
taylor81792 said:
so I would try doing f(x)=X^n. and then get 0^0 and 0^1? so the answers would be 1 and 0. I'm still a little bit confused
If n = 0, then f(x) = 1, so f(0) = 1.
If n = 1, then f(x) = x, so f(0) = 0.
 
unless i am mistaken, the problem is asking for the derivative of f at 0, not f(0).
 

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