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The discussion centers on evaluating powers with rational exponents using a calculator, specifically focusing on the expression 3^(sqrt(2)). The user shares calculated values for various rational exponents of 3 and notes that the value of 3^(sqrt(2)) is approximately 4.728804, which follows the last calculated rational exponent. Confusion arises regarding the use of logarithms and the proper definition of exponentials for irrational numbers, with an emphasis on the continuity of these definitions. The user acknowledges a mistake in their reasoning and seeks clarification on how to define exponentials for irrational numbers, highlighting the importance of sequences of rational numbers converging to irrational values. The conversation underscores the challenge of extending the concept of exponentiation from rational to irrational exponents.
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Hey... requested my professor to give me a few questions to enable me to improve my skills... am having problems solving them however and was hoping that you could guys could help me:

Q1) Use a calculator to evaluate the following powers. Round the results to five decimal placeS. Each of these powers has a rational exponent. Explain how you can use these powers to define 3^( sqrt of 2 ) which has an irrational exponent.

3^(14/10) = 4.65554
3^(141/100)=4.70697
3^(1414/10000)= 4.72770
3^(14142/10000)= 4.72873
3^(141421/100000)= 4.72878
3^(1414213/1000000)= 4.72880


3^( sqrt of 2 ) = 4.728804

so basically the value of 3^(sqrt of 2 ) comes after 3^(1414213/1000000)... hence, you could find the log of 3^14/10 which is .6679697566, then probably do the following : 3^(.667..+.667...+.667...+.667.. +.667 +.667.. +.667).

EDIT: damn .. what i did above doesn't make sense.. I am soo confused.! i do know that i can somehow use logs by finding the log of one value and then adding the solution multiple times to find the value of 3^ ( sqrt of 2 )

EDIT 2: realized that i posted in wrong forum.. my bad.. shall post in general math forum...
 
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Surely, this is not just an exercise in using a calculator! And this isn't a "word problem" so I'm not sure what you meant by that first sentence. The point of the exercise appears to me to be: You have already defined exponentials for any rational power by am/n= (am)1/n= ^n\sqrt{a^m}.
Now, how do you define exponentials for irrational numbers? Every irrational number is the limit of some sequence of rational numbers- that's exactly what you are doing when you say, for example, pi= 3.1415926... 3, 3.1, 3.14, 3.141, 3.14159, 3.141592, 3.1415926,... is a sequence of rational numbers (because they are terminating decimals which could be written as a fraction exactly as you did \sqrt{2})

DEFINING ax to be the limit of a^{r_n} where rn is a sequence of numbers converging to x is just defining ax to be continuous.

You are right: "you could find the log of 3^14/10 which is .6679697566, then probably do the following : 3^(.667..+.667...+.667...+.667.. +.667 +.667.. +.667)."

doesn't make sense. Yes, 314/10 is, approximately, 0.66790696... but it makes no sense to talk about 3 to a sum of that. Are you confusing the exponent
14/10= 1.4 with the whole thing: 314/10?
 
thanks much for your help.. appreciate it..
 
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