Mathematical transition from classical to quantum

In summary, the conversation discusses D. Bohm's 1951 text Quantum Theory, which compares Wien's Law formula, an approximation for quantum mechanics, to Rayleigh-Jeans Law, an approximation for classical explanation. The question is whether the "mathematical transition" between QM and classical occurs when hv = kT. The conversation also mentions a paper by T.H. Boyer on classical statistical thermodynamics and EM zero point radiation, and an update on stochastic electrodynamics as an alternative to QM.
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Rade
I have a question--in D. Bohm 1951 text Quantum Theory, on p. 6 he discusses what he calls Wien's Law formula, which contains two parameters hv/kT; where h is Planck's constant and k is Boltzmann's constant. He argues that the Wien formula fits empirical [experimental] data and thus supports theory of quantum mechanics, in contrast to the Rayleigh-Jeans Law, which does not fit empirical data.

Now my question--if we view Wien's Law formula as an approximation for QM as explains equilibrium distribution of electromagnetic radiation in a hollow cavity, and Rayleigh-Jeans Law as an approximation for classical explanation, would it be correct to say that the "mathematical transition" between QM and classical occurs when hv = kT.
 
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Rade said:
I have a question--in D. Bohm 1951 text Quantum Theory, on p. 6 he discusses what he calls Wien's Law formula, which contains two parameters hv/kT; where h is Planck's constant and k is Boltzmann's constant. He argues that the Wien formula fits empirical [experimental] data and thus supports theory of quantum mechanics, in contrast to the Rayleigh-Jeans Law, which does not fit empirical data.

Now my question--if we view Wien's Law formula as an approximation for QM as explains equilibrium distribution of electromagnetic radiation in a hollow cavity, and Rayleigh-Jeans Law as an approximation for classical explanation, would it be correct to say that the "mathematical transition" between QM and classical occurs when hv = kT.
You might want to study the thoughtful paper:
``Classical statistical thermodynamics and EM zero point radiation''
by T.H. Boyer, Physical review, vol 186, number 5 (1969)
 
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Careful said:
You might want to study the thoughtful paper:
``Classical statistical thermodynamics and EM zero point radiation''
by T.H. Boyer, Physical review, vol 186, number 5 (1969)
Thank you. Here is an update to Boyer paper concerning stochastic electrodynamics (SED) as alternative to QM:
http://www.bu.edu/simulation/publications/dcole/PDF/DCColePhysicsLettA.pdf
 

1. What is the difference between classical and quantum mathematics?

The main difference between classical and quantum mathematics is in the way they describe and model the behavior of physical systems. Classical mathematics, also known as Newtonian mechanics, is based on deterministic equations that accurately predict the behavior of macroscopic objects. On the other hand, quantum mathematics is based on probabilistic equations that describe the behavior of microscopic particles. It takes into account the inherent uncertainty and randomness of quantum systems.

2. How does classical mathematics transition into quantum mathematics?

The transition from classical to quantum mathematics occurs when studying the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic level. Classical equations break down at this scale and are replaced by quantum equations, such as Schrödinger's equation, which take into account the probabilistic nature of quantum systems. This transition also involves using different mathematical tools, such as complex numbers and linear algebra, to describe and analyze quantum systems.

3. What are some real-world applications of the transition from classical to quantum mathematics?

The transition from classical to quantum mathematics has led to numerous real-world applications, including quantum computing, cryptography, and teleportation. It has also played a crucial role in the development of modern technologies, such as transistors, microchips, and lasers. Additionally, it has helped advance our understanding of the behavior of matter and has potential applications in fields such as medicine and energy.

4. How does the concept of superposition relate to the transition from classical to quantum mathematics?

The concept of superposition is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and is closely related to the transition from classical to quantum mathematics. In classical mathematics, a system can only exist in one state at a time. However, in quantum mathematics, a system can exist in multiple states simultaneously, known as superposition. This concept is essential in understanding and predicting the behavior of quantum systems and is a key factor in the development of quantum technologies.

5. What are some challenges in the transition from classical to quantum mathematics?

The transition from classical to quantum mathematics presents several challenges, both theoretical and practical. One of the biggest challenges is understanding and reconciling the differences between the two mathematical models. Additionally, working with quantum systems requires advanced mathematical techniques, such as linear algebra and functional analysis, which can be difficult to grasp without a strong foundation in mathematics. Furthermore, the practical implementation of quantum technologies also poses challenges, such as maintaining and controlling the fragile quantum states of particles.

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