Max Capacity of a Cone-Shape Cup from Paper

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The problem involves determining the maximum capacity of a cone-shaped cup formed from a circular piece of paper by cutting out a sector. The subject area relates to calculus, specifically optimization in geometric contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the dimensions of the cone (radius and height) and the original radius of the paper. There is mention of differentiating the volume formula to find a maximum, as well as parametrizing the dimensions based on the angle of the cut-out sector.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the geometric relationships and potential methods for maximizing the volume. Some have pointed out errors in the initial formulation of the volume equation, while others suggest using trigonometric relationships to express the variables in terms of the angle cut from the paper.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on ensuring the correct units for volume are used, and participants are exploring the implications of the geometry of the cone in relation to the original circular piece of paper.

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Homework Statement


A cone-shape drinking cup is made from a circular piece of paper of radius R by cutting out a sector and joining the edges CA and CB. Find the maximum capacityof such a cup. This is page#312 In James stewarts Calc book, 3rd edition by the way.

Homework Equations


[tex]V=\frac{1}{3}\pi r^2 h[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


So realize this will form a cone with an inner triangle of hypotnue R. The base will have a radius r and a hieght h. So I will have to make a relationship between r and h to get R to plug into [tex]V=\frac{1}{3}\pi h r^2[/tex] and differeniate?
 
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(1/3)*pi*r^2 doesn't even have the units of a volume. (1/3)*pi*r^2*h does. I think that's what you want. You will want to parametrize r and h by the angle cut out of R. And then differentiate and maximize wrt to the angle.
 
sorry clumsy mistake, I forgot the H, lol.
 
Winzer said:
sorry clumsy mistake, I forgot the H, lol.

I thought so. But just write r and h as functions of the cut out angle. That's just geometry.
 
Notice that the entire circle of paper has circumference [itex]2\pi R[/itex] but the circle at the top of the cone has circumference [itex]2\pi r[/itex]. The arc length of the cut out wedge is [itex]R \theta/\2\pi[/itex] where [itex]\theta[/itex] is the angle in radians. That must be the difference between [itex]2\pi R[/itex] and [itex]2\pi r[/itex].
 
mmmm...
 
Ok, then let's try it another way. Draw the right triangle joining a point on the circle of the base of the cone to the apex of the cone. Height is h and base is r, right? What's the length of the hypotenuse? Use Pythagoras to eliminate one of the variables (r or h) from the formula for the volume and maximize.
 

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