Max. n for TIR - air-medium interface

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The discussion revolves around a theoretical problem concerning the conditions for total internal reflection (TIR) at an air-medium interface, specifically focusing on determining the maximum possible refractive index 'n' for a slab of material. The original poster presents an analysis based on the relationship between angles of incidence and refraction, as well as the critical angle for TIR.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the maximum value of 'n' through trigonometric relationships and inequalities related to the angles of incidence and refraction. Some participants question the validity of the proof and suggest that it lacks mathematical rigor. Others explore the implications of the refractive index in relation to TIR conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original proof and raising questions about its implications. There is a divergence in interpretations regarding the nature of the refractive index, with one participant suggesting that there is no maximum value for 'n', while another asserts that √2 is the minimum index required for TIR.

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Participants note that the original poster has made assumptions regarding the critical angle and the conditions for TIR, which may need further clarification. There is also mention of a diagram that may not accurately represent the angles involved, which could affect the reasoning presented.

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Homework Statement



A light ray in air is obliquely incident on a parallel-sided slab of refractive index 'n'.
The light ray refracts and hits the left side of the slab and undergoes total internal refraction.
What is the maximum possible 'n' value?

NOTE - This is a theoretical problem that I created upon observation of a numerical problem that asks for range of incident angles. I do not know if maximum 'n' value can exist for any given circumstances. Also, I have neglected the fact that at critical angle incidence, T.I.R. doesn't occur. However, a small dθ after c should cause T.I.R, so I have left out that negligible amount. Please point out any clarification and/or errors in my assumptions.

Homework Equations



n * sin θ = constant
sin c = 1 / n

The Attempt at a Solution



Now, assume the ray is incident at angle i on the top side.
Upon refraction, we can say → sin i = n * sin r.
Also, since maximum value of sin() is 1; sin i < 1 → n * sin r < 1
( we disregard i = 90°, as the ray is obliquely incident on, and not grazing, the slab)

Now, for air-slab interface, of critical angle c, we know that sin c = 1 / n.
Also, when we draw a diagram, the normals to the incident ray and refracted, T.I.R-ing ray form a right triangle, with c and r as the other two angles → c + r = 90° → c = 90° - r
Taking sin() on both sides, we get sin c = sin (90° - r) = cos r
OR, cos r = 1 / n → sin r = √(1 - ( 1 / n^2 ) ) → n * sin r = √( n^2 - 1)
OR, √( n^2 - 1) < 1 → n^2 < 2 → n < √2

Therefore, the maximum value for 'n', for ray at air-slab interface to undergo T.I.R, is √2.
 

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Your diagram is wrong angle r should be less than angle i
 
@truesearch -

My apologies! I rushed through while making the diagram on Paint.NET.

Regardless, what do you think of the proof?
 
The result is correct, but the proof is not mathematically rigorous.
So sinr≤1/n, cos(r)≤1/n...

ehild
 
What exactly does that mean?

What are the implications of this proof and your counter-arguments?

I'm a bit confused...
 
For total reflection, 90-r, the angle of incidence at the side of the slab must be greater than or equal to the critical angle θc even with the greatest r, which is equal to θc

90°-r≥θc,→ r≤90°-θc even for the greatest r:

r ≤θc≤90°-θc→ θc≤45°

The sine function is monotonously increasing between 0°and 90° so

sinθc=1/n≤1/√2 →n≥√2:

the refractive index can not be smaller than √2. √2 is the smallest, the minimum refractive index that ensures total reflection. There is no maximum refractive index. It can be arbitrary greater than √2.

ehild
 

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