Max transverse speed on a sinusoidal wave

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum transverse speed of a point on a sinusoidal wave described by the equation y(x,t) = 0.00325m * sin(70x - 3t). Participants initially explore the relationship between the wave's parameters and the maximum speed, debating whether to derive the velocity with respect to time or distance. It is clarified that the maximum speed occurs when the cosine component equals 1, leading to a maximum transverse speed of 0.975 cm/s. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding trigonometric functions in wave motion, particularly the behavior of the cosine function in relation to velocity and acceleration. Ultimately, the correct approach emphasizes finding the maximum value of the velocity function derived from the wave equation.
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Given the below equation of a sinusoidal wave, find the maximum transverse speed of a point on the string.

y(x,t) = .00325m * sin(70x -3t)


I am brand new to waves and trying to figure out what this question exactly means. The way I see it is that it might be at a max speed when 70x-3t = 1 because then the equation would just equal the amplitude.

x is related to distance and t is related to time. the function is a position function I think so taking the derivative should give its velocity function.

dy/dt = v = .2275m cos(70x-3t)

Now my thinking has changed. Would velocity be at its max when 70x-3t = 0 since cos(0) = 1?

70x = 3t
t = 70x/3 or x = 3t/70

Ha, I have no idea where I'm going with this. I'm just studying ahead.
 
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You did not calculate dy/dt correctly.

The question did not ask you to calculate when or where the maximum speed occurs, only what the maximum speed is.
 
Hmmm. How would I take the derivative in this case? Do I even have to take the derivative?

Oh and wouldn't max speed be inbetween 2 amplitudes? Like if you look at a sin(x) graph it would be where y=0. Wouldn't this be where max speed would occur?
 
You did the derivative with respect to x instead of t.

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Ah I see. So then dy/dt = v = -.00975 cos(70x-3t)

At its max, cos(70x-3t) = 1/2 since that will be inbetween two amplitudes where its Vmax is at (correct me if I'm wrong). This speed will be the same for any x/t combination that works with this idea.

If cos(70x-3t) = 1/2 then v = -.00975m/s * .5 = -.004875 m/s

Since it is negative, I have a hard time believing I'm on the right track. I think it may actually be when cos(...)=1 and it would be the absolute value of that answer. Or maybe when cos(..)= -1 then it would just negate the negative sign.

So then the max speed would actually be .975 cm/s
 
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The latter answer is correct.
 
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cos(.) varies between -1 and +1. If you are not sure about that, you need to review your trig courses.

Pick the value in that range which gives you the maximum value for the velocity.

I can't guess where your idea that "At its max,cos(70x-3t) = 1/2" came from.
 
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cos(.) varies between -1 and +1. If you are not sure about that, you need to review your trig courses.

Pick the value in that range which gives you the maximum value for the velocity.

I can't guess where your idea that "At its max,cos(70x-3t) = 1/2" came from.

I think I was just stuck thinking about oscillations. From what I remember, when y=0 it's at a max velocity and at the top or bottom of its amplitudes, it's at its max acceleration. Something like that.

Thanks though.
 
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