Maximizing Efficiency: The Role of Feedback in Boost Converter Switch Design

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the design of feedback control circuits for boost converters, particularly focusing on the role of feedback in maintaining output voltage stability under varying load conditions. Participants explore the implications of duty cycle adjustments and the behavior of the circuit components in response to changes in input and output voltages.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of feedback in maintaining a constant output voltage if input voltage and duty cycle are fixed, suggesting that output voltage should remain stable regardless of load.
  • Another participant counters that input voltage is rarely fixed and that load variations can cause output voltage droop, emphasizing the role of feedback in adjusting the duty cycle to maintain output voltage.
  • It is noted that the boost converter operates under the assumption of continuous conduction mode (CCM) and that real-world conditions necessitate duty cycle adjustments to stabilize output voltage.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between Verror, Vout, and duty cycle, indicating that an increase in Verror should lead to a decrease in duty cycle, while a decrease in Vout would require an increase in duty cycle.
  • One participant proposes the use of a zener diode for voltage stabilization, but another warns that this approach is inefficient and typically only suitable for low-power applications.
  • There is a suggestion that simpler designs, such as using a 555 timer, could be employed for boost converters, but the efficiency of switching regulators is highlighted as a significant advantage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of feedback in boost converter designs, with some advocating for its importance while others propose alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to voltage stabilization in boost converters.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that assumptions about fixed input voltage and ideal component behavior may not hold in practical applications, which complicates the analysis of duty cycle adjustments and feedback mechanisms.

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I'm looking into the design of the control circuit for the mosfet. If I know the output voltage and input voltage then I can find the duty cycle required. I found this schematic that uses feedback
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https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/2031

Why would I need feedback that changes the duty cycle like above ?, if the output voltage is dependent on the duty cycle and Vin and if those are fixed values then Vout should be constant regardless of load ?, also I'm a bit confused on the working of the above schematic, is it trying to maintain Verror of 0V regardless of changes in Vout ?
 
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What makes you think that the Vin would be fixed? This is not often the case. There are other things that will cause the output voltage to droop when a load is applied also. You are thinking it backwards concerning the output voltage and the Verror. Verror does whatever it has to in order for the inverting and noninverting inputs of the opamp to remain virtually the same. This is a basic rule in opamp analysis. So if the reference is stable, can you see how the rest of the circuit will behave?
 
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DC to DC converters behaves just like a ideal "DC" transformer. And for the boost converter n = Vout/Vin = 1/(1 - D) but this is true only when the inductor is working in continuous conduction mode (CCM), the inductor current never reaches 0A. And all component are ideal also Vin is kept constant.
And because we are living in non ideal world we need to change duty cycle to kept Vout at fixed value.
 
Averagesupernova said:
What makes you think that the Vin would be fixed? This is not often the case. There are other things that will cause the output voltage to droop when a load is applied also. You are thinking it backwards concerning the output voltage and the Verror. Verror does whatever it has to in order for the inverting and noninverting inputs of the opamp to remain virtually the same. This is a basic rule in opamp analysis. So if the reference is stable, can you see how the rest of the circuit will behave?

So basically Vref would be the max boost converter output voltage or voltage you are trying to maintain. So if for example we are trying to maintain 10V on the output and Vout drops to 9.7V then Verror is 10V-9.7V = 0.3V. If Verror increases then the duty cycle decreases. But if the voltage decreases then the duty cycle should increase since Vout = Vin/(1-D) ?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
So basically Vref would be the max boost converter output voltage or voltage you are trying to maintain. So if for example we are trying to maintain 10V on the output and Vout drops to 9.7V then Verror is 10V-9.7V = 0.3V. If Verror increases then the duty cycle decreases. But if the voltage decreases then the duty cycle should increase since Vout = Vin/(1-D) ?
If Vout drops the voltage at Verror will rise, this means that as long as Verror > Vramp the voltage at Vswitch is high so the duty cycle increase.

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Jony130 said:
If Vout drops the voltage at Verror will rise, this means that as long as Verror > Vramp the voltage at Vswitch is high so the duty cycle increase.

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Ok, yes that makes sense. If I am designing a boost converter would I need a control system like this ?, What if I used a zener diode to fix the voltage regardless of current changes ?
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
What if I used a zener diode to fix the voltage regardless of current changes ?
It is wasteful of power, so you'd only use a zener to stabilize the output where the load draws low power. The attraction of a switching booster/regulator is that it can offer efficient operation at high power.
 

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