Maximizing range of projectile on a wedge

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The discussion focuses on maximizing the horizontal range of a projectile launched from a frictionless wedge inclined at 30 degrees. The initial approach involved rotating the axes to align with the wedge, leading to confusion in calculating the horizontal range. It was clarified that the projectile's trajectory does not depend on the slope, and the horizontal range should be determined by where the trajectory intersects the slope. The participant realized that they mistakenly aimed to maximize the distance on the wedge rather than the horizontal range. Ultimately, the correct launch angle for maximizing the horizontal range was found to be 34.3 degrees after adjustments.
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Homework Statement


A greasy spud is launched off of the top of an infinitely large frictionless wedge. The angle that the wedge slopes down at is 30 degrees. Find the launch angle that maximizes the horizontal range of the spud.

Homework Equations

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x = x0 + vxt + (1/2)at2

The Attempt at a Solution


I began by rotating the axes so that the x-axis would be parallel with the wedge. Then I divided gravity into x and y components.

ax = sin(30)mg

ay = cos(30)mg

Then I found the total time the spud is in the air

t = 2(sinθv0)/(cos(30)mg)

The horizontal range of the spud can be written as

x = cosθv0t + (1/2)(sinθmg)t2

Substituting for t yields

x = ((2sinθv02)/(cos(30))(cosθ + (sin2θ)/(cos(30))

I then took the derivative of cos(θ) + sin2(θ))/(cos(30) with respect to θ and got

2cosθsinθ/cos(30) - sinθ

setting this equal to zero and solving for theta yielded 64.3 degrees. Then, subtracting the angle through which I rotated the axes gives 34.3 degrees.
 
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AlephNumbers said:
Substituting for t yields

x = ((2sinθv02)/(cos(30))(cosθ + (sin2θ)/(cos(30))

Check the parentheses!
You made the job difficult with rotating the axes. The trajectory of the projectile, y(x) (height-horizontal displacement) does not depend on the slope, and the x range can be found where y(x) intersects the line of the slope.
 
Having rotated the axes, x no longer represents horizontal range.
 
ehild said:
The trajectory of the projectile, y(x) (height-horizontal displacement) does not depend on the slope

haruspex said:
Having rotated the axes, x no longer represents horizontal range.

Right. That was a bit silly of me. So what I solved for was the angle that maximizes the distance covered on the wedge. For some reason I thought that if I maximized the distance that the spud would travel on the wedge I would also maximize the horizontal range.
 
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