MC (multiple choice) question about total internal reflection

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For total internal reflection to occur in an optical fiber, the refractive index of the core (n1) must be greater than that of the cladding (n2), and the angle of incidence (i) must be greater than the critical angle (c). The discussion highlights confusion about the relationship between the angles of incidence and refraction, clarifying that as the angle of incidence increases, the angle of refraction decreases. It is emphasized that for total internal reflection, the angle of incidence must be less than a certain value related to the critical angle. Ultimately, understanding these relationships is crucial for determining the conditions necessary for light to travel along the fiber.
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Homework Statement


There is an optical fiber.A light ray enter it at i°.Total internal reflection occur at X.
What are the necessary conditions for the light ray to travel along the core of the fiber?
(I have canceled B and D already.)
A.n1>n2 and angle i should be greater than a certain value.
C.n1>n2 and angle i should be less than a certain value.

Homework Equations


sinθa/sinθg=1/n; sinc=1/n;n1/n2=v1/v2

The Attempt at a Solution


For t.i.r. θ>c
r=90°-θ
r<90°-c
But I don't understand how I can determine i is greater than or less than c(certain value) because i and r are not the same?
Thank you so much!:)
cainko
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cainko said:
(I have canceled B and D already.)
A.n1>n2 and angle i should be greater than a certain value.
C.n1>n2 and angle i should be less than a certain value.

Why do you say that n1 > n2? You might review your notes or textbook.

But I don't understand how I can determine i is greater than or less than c(certain value) because i and r are not the same?

In order for total internal reflection to occur at the boundary between n1 and n2, does the angle of incidence θ (in your drawing) need to be greater than the critical angle or less than the critical angle?

What happens to the angle θ if the angle i is increased?
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

What's an MC?
MC is multiple choice question:)
 
TSny said:
Why do you say that n1 > n2? You might review your notes or textbook.
In order for total internal reflection to occur at the boundary between n1 and n2, does the angle of incidence θ (in your drawing) need to be greater than the critical angle or less than the critical angle?

What happens to the angle θ if the angle i is increased?

I am so sorry!:( I draw the figure wrongly!
for t.i.r. light must travel from low speed to high sped,for light ray:larger n --> smaller n ==>n1>n2

θ will increase when angle i increased??
sini/sinr = n ; sini increase-->sinr decrease==>θ=90°-r, r decrease θ increase?
thx so much!
 

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cainko said:
I am so sorry!:( I draw the figure wrongly!
for t.i.r. light must travel from low speed to high sped,for light ray:larger n --> smaller n ==>n1>n2
OK, no problem.
sini/sinr = n ; sini increase-->sinr decrease

sin(i)/sin(r) = n implies that sin(i) = n sin(r). So, if sin(i) increases what happens to sin(r)?
 
TSny said:
OK, no problem.sin(i)/sin(r) = n implies that sin(i) = n sin(r). So, if sin(i) increases what happens to sin(r)?

decreases?
 
The equation sin(i) = n sin(r) says that sin(i) and sin(r) are directly proportional to one another. If one increases so does the other.
 
TSny said:
The equation sin(i) = n sin(r) says that sin(i) and sin(r) are directly proportional to one another. If one increases so does the other.
Oh, so r<90°-c ---> i is also<90°-c ?? so i is less than certain value?
 
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cainko said:
Oh, so r<90°-c ---> i is also<90°-c ??
No. You are right that the condition r < 90 - c will produce total internal reflection at X.
But that doesn't imply that the angle i must also be less than 90 - c. You are very close to the answer.

Let rc = 90 - c. So, when r = rc, θ = c. You correctly stated that whenever r is less than rc, you will get total internal reflection at X.

When r = rc, the angle i will have some value which we can call ic. How could you find ic if you knew rc? Does ic equal rc?

What is the condition on angle i such that you get total internal reflection at X?
 
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TSny said:
No. You are right that the condition r < 90 - c will produce total internal reflection at X.
But that doesn't imply that the angle i must also be less than 90 - c. You are very close to the answer.

Let rc = 90 - c. So, when r = rc, θ = c. You correctly stated that whenever r is less than rc, you will get total internal reflection at X.

When r = rc, the angle i will have some value which we can call ic. How could you find ic if you knew rc? Does ic equal rc?

What is the condition on angle i such that you get total internal reflection at X?

as i increase when r increase, to make r< rc , i should be<ic too?
 
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cainko said:
as i increase when r increase, to make r< rc , i should be<ic too?
Yes.
 
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