Measure the strength of the signal

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on measuring signal strength and deterioration over lengthy cables using oscilloscopes. Users can send a known 5V pulse through a cable and measure the output to determine signal loss, which is influenced by both cable length and frequency. The conversation also touches on the design of a system to detect short circuits, open circuits, and wire quality in a 24V system. A recommendation for using a cable tester is provided for assessing transmission line cables.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of signal integrity and amplitude measurement
  • Familiarity with oscilloscopes and their operation
  • Knowledge of cable types, including twisted pair and coaxial cables
  • Basic principles of electrical signals and frequency effects
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  • Research how to use oscilloscopes for measuring signal loss over distance
  • Learn about the effects of frequency on signal degradation
  • Explore the functionality and types of cable testers available
  • Investigate methods for detecting short circuits and open circuits in wiring systems
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Electrical engineers, technicians working with signal transmission, and anyone involved in designing or testing cable systems will benefit from this discussion.

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Hi all,

i have heard a lot of signal deterioration. so i just wanted to understand if i send a pulse let us say of some 5V and measure it using an oscilloscope and send it through a very lengthy cable and measure the same signal with an oscilloscope can i find that the amplitude of the signal coming down at some point of the cable? i also know that as the speed of the signal is increased the signal travels lesser distance. is it possible for me to practically observe these using our regular oscilloscopes? Based on these inputs i want to design a system where if lot of wires are bunched together is there is any short circuits within the wire? or any open circuits? quality of the wire? and other details is it possible? i am thinking of all these details for a 24V system.

Thanks in advance,
regards,

satya
 
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Yes, give a known input signal and measure it out the output to determine the loss through the cable.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the signal loss is a function of the length of the cable AND frequency. Higher frequencies will have a greater loss.

As for the last part with the bunch of cables I am not sure what you are asking.
 
satya77 said:
Hi all,

i have heard a lot of signal deterioration. so i just wanted to understand if i send a pulse let us say of some 5V and measure it using an oscilloscope and send it through a very lengthy cable and measure the same signal with an oscilloscope can i find that the amplitude of the signal coming down at some point of the cable? i also know that as the speed of the signal is increased the signal travels lesser distance. is it possible for me to practically observe these using our regular oscilloscopes? Based on these inputs i want to design a system where if lot of wires are bunched together is there is any short circuits within the wire? or any open circuits? quality of the wire? and other details is it possible? i am thinking of all these details for a 24V system.

Thanks in advance,
regards,

satya

From the last part of your question, it sounds like you are wanting something like a "Cable Tester":

http://www.google.com/products?q=cable+tester&hl=en

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_tester

Cable Testers can be used on transmission line type cable (twisted pair or coax), but would be less effective with cables that have unmatched wires in them...
 

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