Measuring distances with diffraction experiment

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The discussion revolves around designing an experiment to investigate how the rate of water flow through cloth material is influenced by the spacing of individual threads. The original poster mentions using diffraction with a laser to measure thread separation and questions the roles of various electrical equipment in the experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to incorporate an ammeter, voltmeter, and oscilloscope into their experimental design, questioning their relevance and potential applications.
  • Some participants suggest that certain equipment may not be necessary, while others explore hypothetical uses for the electrical devices in the context of the experiment.
  • There is speculation about using the equipment for unconventional purposes, such as measuring resistance or as weights.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing ideas and questioning the necessity and functionality of various pieces of equipment. There is no clear consensus on the best approach, but multiple interpretations and suggestions are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the constraints of the experiment, including the relevance of specific equipment and the implications of including items like an umbrella in the setup.

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Homework Statement



The individual threads in a cloth are very close together.
Design an experiment to investigate how the rate at which water passes through the material depends on the separation of the individual threads in the material.

Available equipment:
Ammeter,battery,cloths,wires,funnel,large tank of water,low power laser,measuring cylinder,metre rule,oscilloscope,screen,top pan balance,umbrella,voltmeter


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So I know how to measure the distance between the cloth via diffraction, with the laser light using the interference patterns. What I actually want to know is how the ammeter,voltmeter and oscilloscope actually fit into this.

Best I could think of is that they are used to regulate the power flowing into the laser to keep it constant?

Also in measuring the water, why would you need a top pan balance if you can measure the water with a measuring cylinder? So wouldn't the weight of the water be irrelevant?
 
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Similar to the umbrella, I don't think you need them (if you know how to operate the laser) - you can just pick what you need.
 
But if we had to include those things: voltmeter,ammeter etc. where would they be placed, what would be their use?
 
Potential uses of voltmeter and amperemeter I can see:
- Use the voltmeter to check the voltage of the battery. Compare it with the laser specifications.
- Put equipment on top of them, if that position is better for the actual experiment.
- Use them as weight to fix other equipment
- Use them to heat the room
- Trade them in exchange for more useful tools
- Use battery, volt- and amperemeter to measure the resistance of water (from one side to the other, for example) in the measuring cylinder. Use this value to calculate the amount of water inside (after calibrating the whole method with the measuring cylinder?).
- Disassemble to oscilloscope (dangerous!) to get electromagnets. Use them to build a simple scale, and determine the amount of water in the measuring cylinder.
- Measure the resistance of the cloths to evaluate the possible density, assuming all probes are made out of the same material.
- More speculative: Remove the insulation of two metal wires, put a probe of cloth on top of one of them and pull the tip of the other along the cloth material. Measure current flow between them with the oscilloscope, count the number of peaks observed (corresponding to holes in the material). Measure the linear distance of the probed region, calculate the density.

How to use the umbrella? Well, it could be useful if the experiment is done outside in the rain.
 
mfb said:
Potential uses of voltmeter and amperemeter I can see:
- Use them as weight to fix other equipment

A paperweight, perfect!
lol, thanks for the help though, good to know that the apparatus is as useless as I thought. Just needed to verify. The fact that the umbrella was included in addition to the cloth itself made me begin to wonder, now I can confirm.thanks.
 

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