Measuring extremely high/low temperatures

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The discussion revolves around measuring extreme temperatures, specifically in the context of very high temperatures, such as those found in the sun, and very low temperatures approaching absolute zero. Participants explore various methods and concepts related to temperature measurement and the theoretical limits of temperature.

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  • The original poster inquires about methods for measuring extreme temperatures and expresses confusion about the available resources. They mention specific tools like thermocouples and optical pyrometers. Other participants discuss the concept of temperature as related to kinetic energy and the implications of high-energy states on matter. There is also mention of using emission spectra to determine the sun's temperature and the application of Planck's Law.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and clarifications about temperature measurement methods and theoretical concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of emission spectra and black body radiation, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods or limits of temperature.

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The original poster notes their lack of prior physics experience and the challenges they face in understanding the subject matter. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic and the need for further exploration of the concepts discussed.

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I understand that the range of extreme temperature is from 0-15million K. What are the ways that we can measure this? How did they figure out the temperature of the sun?

thermocouple thermometer? blackbody radiation? optical pyrometer? I've tried searching for general information on these online but they usually take me to pages that sell thermometers and pyrometers.

I just registered because I'm taking an introductory online physics course where I have to teach myself basically. This looks like a great site which I will be reading very often to help myself get through physics. I'm pretty intimidated by this subject (and this forum!) because I have never taken a physics class and I'm having some issues already so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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While the lowest possible temperature is absolute zero, I do not know of any existing upper temperature limit. Temperature is the average kinetic energy of the atoms/molecules making up whatever it is you're taking the temperature of after all. But physically speaking, there may be a limit where the energy is so high matter cannot exist as we know it (i.e. atoms).

This is probably not the only way, but the temperature of sun can be calculated by simply looking at its emission spectrum. Planck's Law for black body radiation should have the math needed. It says that any black body at any temperature will have a maximum emission at a specific wavelength. This wavelength gets smaller as the temperature increases. And if I have my facts right, the sun radiates most of its energy in the visible spectrum, peaking at around the green band.
 
For temperatures approaching 0K, they use a Bose statistic which measures temperature based on the number of atoms in the ground state.
 
thank you, i appreciate it
 

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