Automotive Mechanical vs. electric coolant pumps

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Electric coolant pumps are increasingly being used in production vehicles, particularly in hybrid and electric models, with Audi and Toyota Prius as notable examples. Many manufacturers are transitioning to electric pumps to reduce parasitic drag and improve fuel efficiency. There is a growing market for aftermarket electric pumps designed to replace mechanical ones in high-performance vehicles. The discussion highlights a need for more information on the control mechanisms for these pumps, particularly regarding the integration of thermostats and flow rate management. Overall, the trend indicates a shift towards electric auxiliary components in the automotive industry.
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Hi everyone, I am conducting a small research on how many manufacturers (if any) use electric water pumps in production vehicles. So far I found that many Audi models have auxiliary electric pumps which help the main mechanical one when needed (and maybe to run for some minute after turning the engine off) and also that the Toyota Prius runs an electric pump. Apart from that i found many companies selling electric pumps to replace mechanical ones in high performance vehicles (Meziere, CSR atc.). Do you know about any production vehicle relying solely on an electric pump? I would also be interested in how the control is designed, namely if you still need a thermostat (I think yes) and how it would be adjusted so as not to conflict with controlling the pump flow rate. Thanks for any answers/tips/links!
 
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Can't tell you how many are currently using it, and I'm not inclined to look. You can already see electric and hybrids using them, as they have the battery capacity to do so (so it's a logical step). I'm fairly sure that new efficient dynamics BMWs are running electric power steering and coolant pumps.

But in the effort to reduce parasitic drag (for emissions/fuel consumption targets) all manufacturers will be moving almost all front end auxiliary components to electric drive.

http://papers.sae.org/2004-01-0596/
 
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