Mechanics 3 - Further kinematics

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a particle's motion along the positive x-axis, where its acceleration is defined as a function of its displacement. The original poster is attempting to derive the speed of the particle as a function of displacement and subsequently as a function of time, given initial conditions.

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate the acceleration function to find velocity and displacement but encounters confusion regarding the relationship between velocity and acceleration. Some participants question the validity of the book's answer, while others clarify the mathematical relationship between the derived equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the mathematical steps involved. There is a recognition of a potential misunderstanding by the original poster regarding the equivalence of their derived expression and the book's answer. Guidance has been offered on how to approach the integration and interpretation of the results.

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The discussion includes a note about the initial conditions provided in the problem and the potential for errors in the textbook's solutions, as well as the original poster's acknowledgment of a mistake in their reasoning.

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I'm studying M3 as one of the three modules for my further maths alevel, and have just started the first chapter. I'm fine with acceleration as a funtion of time, and integrating to find velocity and displacement, and most of acceleration as a function of displacement, but have come stuck on one of the questions:-

A particle p moves along the positive x axis. Its acceleration is (x + 3)ms^-2 when its displacement from the origin O is x meters. Given that initially, when t = 0, the velocity of P is 3ms^-1 in the direction Ox and x = 0. Obtain:-
a) the speed Vms^-1 of P as a funtction of x
b) x as a function of t


I started by trying (1/2)v^2 = INT(X+3)
therefore getting
v^2 = x^2 + 6x + C
where C = 9
therefore:
v^2 = x^2 + 6x + 9

The book's answer however is different, v = x + 3
I don't know how they got that answer, and as for part b) I'm completely lost as i can't figure out how to bring t into the equation.

Any help would be greatly apprectiated,
Thanks,
Bob
 
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how can the velocity = x+3 if the acceleration is x+3 ?
 
I don't know, that's the books answer. It could be wrong though. I know a few were in M1.
 
You can find da/dx.
da/dx*v = da/dx*dx/dt = da/dt.
 
Your answer is not different anyway. v^2 = x^2 + 6x + 9 = (x + 3)^2.
Thus v = x + 3. So why should you say that your answer is wrong according to the book? Use the same concept I have shown dor the second question to solve the first question. It is tricky but solve it properly.
 
Ah of course. Silly mistake there, just wasnt thinking. Thank you.
 
Here is the answer:

(a) d/dx(0.5v2) = ( x + 3 )
=> v2/2 = x2/2 + 3x + C
=> v2 = x2 + 6x + C

when t=0, x=0 and v=3
Therefore, c = 9

v2 = x2 + 6x + 9
=> v2 = (x+3)2
=> v = (x+3)

(b) v = x+3
a = x+3

a = dv/dx * dx/dt
=> (x+3) = 1 * (dx/dt)
Integrating both sides... ( replace "{" as integration sign... (im a noob in this forum))

=> {dx/x+3 = { dt
=> ln|x+3| = t + c .eqn 1

when t=0, x=0

=> c = ln3

therefore... from eqn 1...

=> ln|x+3| = t + ln3
=> ln|x+3| - ln3 = t
=> ln|(x+3)/3| = t
=> (x+3)/3 = expt
=> x + 3 = 3expt
=> x = 3expt - 3
 
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