Mechanism with 2 Sliders: Angular Acceleration of Rod?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular acceleration of a rod in a mechanism with two sliders, given specific parameters such as the speed and acceleration of Slider A. The rod AB is 3 meters long and positioned at a 60-degree angle with the horizontal. Participants clarify the geometry of the mechanism, particularly the angles and the radius of the curved path, which are crucial for determining the angular acceleration. There is a focus on finding the acceleration of end B to proceed with the calculation, but confusion persists regarding the application of the relevant equations. The conversation highlights the importance of the mechanism's layout in affecting the calculations needed for the solution.
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Homework Statement


A mechanism with 2 sliders is shown in the fig. Slider A at the instant shown has a speed of 3 m/sec and is accelerating at the rate of 15 m/s^2 towards rite at the given instant . If rod AB has a length of 3m and \theta is 60 degree at the instant shown. Find angular acceleration of the rod.

http://img710.imageshack.us/i/82051883.png/


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i hav found the angullar velocity of end B...but can't proceed further!
 
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What do you think is the velocity of A ?
 


velocity of end A is given/...
 


Oops, I meant end B.
 


:-p

i hav calculated vel of B as 3 m/s..
 


NEILS BOHR said:

Homework Statement


A mechanism with 2 sliders is shown in the fig. Slider A at the instant shown has a speed of 3 m/sec and is accelerating at the rate of 15 m/s^2 towards rite at the given instant . If rod AB has a length of 3m and \theta is 60 degree at the instant shown. Find angular acceleration of the rod.

http://img710.imageshack.us/i/82051883.png/

Your image shows two angles designated \theta. Which is which? And what is R = 3m? The radius of the curved track?
 


ya the r is radius of curved path...

and the theta is the angle which rod makes with horizontal...
 


NEILS BOHR said:
ya the r is radius of curved path...

and the theta is the angle which rod makes with horizontal...

So, the angle designated theta at the center of curvature of the curved path is spurious? Is the actual angle unknown, or does the diagram imply that path radius and rod form a straight angle (180 degrees) at the instant in question? This would fix the distance of the horizontal path from the center of curvature of the curved path.
 


if you can find the acceleration of end B, you should be able to find the angular acceleration of the rod.
 
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graphene said:
if you can find the acceleration of end B, you should be able to find the angular acceleration of the rod.

While that is no doubt true, it is also true that if the acceleration depends upon the geometry of the mechanism, then the specific layout at the instant in question would be important. Having a straight angle between A and the path center presents a different situation than if the line AB does not intersect the that center.
 
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@graphene
how??can u pleasez give a hint or somethin?
 
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more replies pleasezz:frown:
 
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NEILS BOHR said:
more replies pleasezz:frown:

Show some of your work so far! What's your approach?
 
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well i told you i found out the vel. of end B but then i m confused how to find angular acc..
i tried using IAOR but cudnt reach there...
 
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