Minimum frequency for a point to have maximum amplitude in standing wave

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the frequency of a standing wave and the conditions for maximum amplitude at a point. Participants highlight the importance of including variables such as tension and mass per unit length in the calculations. The relevant equation for wave speed, v = √(T/μ), is emphasized as crucial for finding the correct frequency. The original poster's misunderstanding stems from misapplying the formula and not recognizing that resonances occur at specific intervals. Ultimately, the conclusion points to an error in the problem statement regarding the conditions for an anti-node.
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Homework Statement
We are given a rope with a mass of 20g and length of 1.5m.
The tension of the rope is 5N, and we are holding it in the edges.
Find the minimal frequency so that a point with a distance of 0.3m from one edge will have maximum amplitude.
Relevant Equations
f=vn/2L
When I tried using the equations the only thing I could see is that it is impossible for such point to be an anti-node. In this case, how do I find the frequency? The answer is not even with the form of v*n/2L which is very confusing to me, I thought that the frequency of a standing wave must have that form?

The answer is 30Hz.

Can someone please explain how to get this? How does that even make sense?
 
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Hi,

You don't explain what v is
You miss a relevant equation that features the tension
Idem the mass (or the mass per unit length)
And perhaps a sketch is also extremely useful

Fix all that and then you can perhaps discover a path to the solution ...
 
We have the tension and the density of the mass. Sqrt(5*75) is supposed to be equal to v. 2L is 3.
The answer doesn't fit the formula of the frequency.
 
Is that 75 inches or 75 furlongs ?
Ah, m/kg ! so$$v=\sqrt {T\over \mu}\approx 19.4 \text{ m/s}$$
is the relevant equation I missed in your post.
 
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BvU said:
Is that 75 inches or 75 furlongs ?
75 is the length divided by the mass.
 
Eitan Levy said:
impossible for such point to be an anti-node
I start to see your problem. You get resonances at multiples of 6.5 Hz and never an antinode at L/5, because they occur at L/2n

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Conclusion: error in the problem statement
 
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