Minimum Impact Velocity for Pendulum to Swing Over Top of Arc

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To determine the minimum impact velocity required for a pendulum to swing over the top of its arc after a mass m embeds into mass M, the acceleration must equal g when the pendulum reaches its highest point. The user derived the equation v_i = (m+M)√(lg)/m but received feedback indicating a potential error in their calculation. Clarification was sought regarding the specifics of the arc's top position, prompting requests for a visual aid. The discussion emphasizes the need for accurate numerical factors in the solution. Understanding the mechanics of the pendulum and the impact dynamics is crucial for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement


A pendulum consists of a mass M hanging at the bottom end of a massless rod of length l, which has a frictionless pivot at its top end. A mass m, moving as shown in the figure with velocity v impacts M and becomes embedded.

What is the smallest value of v sufficient to cause the pendulum (with embedded mass m) to swing clear over the top of its arc?


Homework Equations



p=mv


The Attempt at a Solution


I realize that the acceleration must be \frac{v^2}{l}=g to swing over the arc. Thus, I found:

v_f=mv_i/(m+M), and set Vf equal to \sqrt{lg} from the first equation.

I got:
v_i=\frac{(m+M)\sqrt{lg}}{m}

But the software returned:
Code:
Your answer either contains an incorrect numerical multiplier or is missing one.

Help!
Thanks!
 
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What is the top of its arc?

Is there a figure you can provide or describe in better detail?
 
LowlyPion said:
What is the top of its arc?

Is there a figure you can provide or describe in better detail?

Sure. See the attachment.
Thanks!
 

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