Misunderstood Thermodynamic question

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The discussion revolves around plotting the specific heat capacity (cp) of oxygen (O2) as a function of temperature and comparing it to the expected cp for a diatomic ideal gas, which is constant at cp = 7/2 R. Participants clarify that the value of R should be consistent and temperature-independent, and they emphasize the need to graph cp for O2 against the constant value for an ideal gas. There is confusion about how to represent the data correctly, but eventually, one participant realizes that the ideal gas cp should be represented as a straight line on the graph. The conversation concludes with a focus on ensuring the graph accurately reflects the theoretical values and the participant's intent to share their completed graph later.
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Homework Statement


Plot cp as a function of temperature for O2? How does this compare with the cp expected for a diatomic ideal
gas. Add this constant value to your plot. At what temperatures does the real value of cp approach that
expected for a diatomic ideal gas.


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I plot the Cp as a function of temperature for O2?

the second part totally i misunderstand it i don't know what i should do

The Attempt at a Solution



this is what i did ( see that attachment please)

if u want to see the tables (click here )

table number 2.
 

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Looks to me like you plotted cp for oxygen vs. hydrogen. You were asked to plot cp for oxygen vs. cp for an ideal diatomic gas, which the problem states is a constant.

What is cp for an ideal diatomic gas?
 
I have just the general formula of diatomic !
 
Abdlellah said:
I have just the general formula of diatomic !

So graph it already!
 
Sorry I'm really bad in this :(
This is the general formula
cp = 7/2 R

What is the values of R that I have to put it.
Im thinking to calculate the Cp by taking the R value of O2 from table. But I will get only one point how I would graph it
 
Abdlellah said:
Sorry I'm really bad in this :(
This is the general formula
cp = 7/2 R

What is the values of R that I have to put it.
Im thinking to calculate the Cp by taking the R value of O2 from table. But I will get only one point how I would graph it

If I give you y = y(x) and say y = cosntant, you know how to graph it, don't you?
 
the value of R at 300 is 0.2 something
so i calculate it and plot it to the graph and that what i got
 
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Abdlellah said:
that what i get is it right ?

What happened to cp = 7R/2 where R is the theoretical, constant value of R?
 
rude man said:
What happened to cp = 7R/2 where R is the theoretical, constant value of R?

i changed my answer. the R is constant at 300 K so i put the point at 300 K
is it now correct ?
 

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Abdlellah said:
i changed my answer. the R is constant at 300 K so i put the point at 300 K
is it now correct ?

The theoretical R is the same for all gases and is temperature-independent. But be aware that your units of R must be compatible with the units of your chart (the varying values of cp for O2.

Also, when you do get the right value for R, since it's temperature-independent, what is the correct way to graph it on your graph?
 
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Oooooh I got it thank you very much :D I made the straight line because its constant
 
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Abdlellah said:
Oooooh I got it thank you very much :D I made the straight line because its constant

Ats'a way to go!
What's your total graph look like anyway?
 
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I'm using my iPad so I can't upload it. I'll upload it once I get home. Thank you toooooo much
 
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