Model rocket - free fall acceleration again

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum altitude and total time for a model rocket that accelerates upward at 4.0 m/s² for 6 seconds before entering free fall. Participants clarify that the initial velocity (Vo) can be assumed to be zero since the rocket starts from rest before the engine ignites. The height at 6 seconds can be calculated using the formula X-Xo = Vot + 0.5at², leading to a height of 72 meters. After the engine cuts out, the only acceleration acting on the rocket is gravity, which must be considered to find the maximum height and total time until it strikes the ground. Understanding that acceleration does not require an initial velocity is crucial in solving the problem.
missrikku
model rocket - free fall acceleration again :(

The problem states:

A model rocket fired vertically from the ground ascends with a constant vertical acceleration of 4.0 m/s^2 for 6.00 seconds. Its fuel is then exhausted, so it continues upward as a free-fall particle and then falls back down. a) what is the max altitude reached? b) what is the total time elapsed from takeoff until the rocket strikes the ground?

While drawing the sketch of this problem and attempting to solve part a, I got stuck when I was choosing the correct formulas to use.

To solve a, I tried to find the height of the rocket at t=6.0s

X-Xo = Vot + 0.5at^2

With R = height of the rocket at t = 6.0s,
R = Vot + 0.5(4.0)(6.0)^2 = (6.0)Vo + 72

My question is: would Vo = 0? I think I could solve this problem faster if that was the case. I was wondering about this because this rocket already had an acceleration of 4.0m/s^2 ti start and since acceleration is the change in velocity over time (right?) that must mean that there was some initial velocity so Vo doesn't equal 0. But if that's true, how would I go about finding that Vo? Do I even need that to solve this problem?

I was going to find the height of the rocket at t = 6.0s and then find the height from there up to the max using a = -g and Vmax = 0. Then the max height reached would be those values (height at 6.0s and height from there to the max height where Vmax = 0) added together.
 
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Originally posted by missrikku
To solve a, I tried to find the height of the rocket at t=6.0s

X-Xo = Vot + 0.5at^2


With R = height of the rocket at t = 6.0s,
R = Vot + 0.5(4.0)(6.0)^2 = (6.0)Vo + 72

OK

My question is: would Vo = 0?

Yes, you can assume that the rocket starts from rest.

Once you get the height at which the engine cuts out, remember that the only acceleration from that height onwards is the acceleration due to gravity.
 


Originally posted by missrikku
and since acceleration is the change in velocity over time (right?) that must mean that there was some initial velocity so Vo doesn't equal 0.

Acceleration is change in velocity over time. That doesn't mean that you need a velocity to have an acceleration.

When the rocket is sitting on the pad, it has zero velocity. You then turn on the engine, and the engine provides the acceleration. The rocket still doesn't start moving until a split-second later (t just over 0).
 
Originally posted by Missrikku
that must mean that there was some initial velocity so Vo doesn't equal 0.


0 IS a velocity! You can even have negative velocities!
 
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