Momentum Principle Related to Velocity

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The discussion revolves around applying the Momentum Principle to determine the speed of a satellite orbiting Earth. The satellite's mass is 2500 kg, and it orbits at a radius of 8.3 million meters. Participants clarify that the Momentum Principle can be expressed as the change in momentum equals the net force times the change in time. By recognizing the circular motion of the satellite, they derive that the speed can be calculated using the formula v = sqrt(G*Mearth/r). Ultimately, the problem is resolved by expressing the orbital speed in terms of gravitational parameters.
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Homework Statement



You will need to use the Momentum Principle to do the first part of this problem, and the Energy Principle to do the second part.

A satellite of mass 2500 kg orbits the Earth in a circular orbit of radius of 8.3 106 m (this is above the Earth's atmosphere).The mass of the Earth is 6.0 1024 kg.
What is the speed of the satellite?
I have the 2nd part of the problem, so all I need is the momentum principle


Homework Equations



Pfinal = Pinitial + Fnet*DeltaT
GMm/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how to start this one. The directions say that I'm supposed to use the momentum principle, but I'm not given the speed of the satellite. I was thinking maybe the derivative form of the momentum principle and find the perpendicular component of dP/dT, but I'm not sure how long it takes for the satellite to go around th earth. I'm completely stuck.
 
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I have no idea what you mean by the "momentum principle". If you mean conservation of momentum, I don't see how that is relevant.

Instead, apply Newton's 2nd law to the satellite, recognizing that its motion is circular.
 
By momentum principle I mean DeltaP = Fnet*DeltaT
 
OK, I see. Your initial thought was correct: Use F = dP/dt. (Note that this is another way of stating Newton's 2nd law.)

Use what you know (or should know) about circular motion to evaluate d(mv)/dt = m dv/dt.
 
Here's the problem I have with using dP/dt: In order to find the velocity, or the change in momentum, I need to know the time it takes for one rotation around the earth...that's why I didn't use that formula in the first place. v = dr/dt, but again, I don't have dt.
 
Call the speed "v" and express dP/dt in terms of it (along with other known variables).
 
v= dr/dt I can find dr because I know the radius of orbit, but I have no way of finding dt.
 
You can express the period (if you need it) in terms of v, since you know the radius of the orbit.
 
I don't understand how you can express the period in terms of v if you don't know the time.
 
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Ok, I figured out the problem.

v = sqrt(G*Mearth/r)
 
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Excellent.
 
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