Moving 4 items attached on shafts

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The discussion revolves around the mechanical challenge of moving four items attached to shafts, specifically rotating them 180 degrees and back while supporting a load. Participants explore various methods for achieving this movement, including the use of bearings, motors, and potential mechanical configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant emphasizes the need for bearings to support the shafts and allow for rotation.
  • Another participant notes that the method of rotation is uncertain and depends on factors such as resistance, whether all items must turn together, precision requirements, speed, and stopping conditions.
  • A participant suggests considering a single motor drive with a belt and pulleys, or devising a mechanism to link all four items for synchronized turning.
  • Concerns about potential kinematic interference are raised, suggesting that dimensions should be checked to avoid issues during movement.
  • Participants discuss the load on the items, with one specifying that there will be a 30 kg load during the outward movement after an initial phase without load.
  • Questions arise regarding the assembly of motor-driven gear or belt systems, indicating a need for further clarification on the design and requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the best approach to achieve the desired movement, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanisms and configurations to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the operational parameters, such as load sources, environmental conditions, and specific performance requirements, which may affect the proposed solutions.

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I’m not sure if this is the right place to post, I hope it is. I’m a mechanical student and don’t have a lot of experience on how to move objects (yet). For a project I have to move 4 items which are attached on shafts. I would like to be able to move those items 180 degrees inside and back outside. Picture:

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The items weight about 50kg each.

How should I do this with bearings?
How should I make those rotations? With 4 stepper motors or pinions or…?

Thanks in advance.
 
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You will surely need to provide bearing for the four shafts. The bearings have to both support the shafts and also allow them to turn.

As to how to cause the four rotations, that is a bit more indefinite. There are many ways, and you have not specified enough information. Will there be resistance to being turned? Must they all turn together? Is this to be a precision turn, or is the angle only approximate? How fast must the turn be made? Must the arms stop at the end of the turn, or do they continue to travel?

You could consider a single motor drive with a belt and four pulleys, for example, if that will give the performance that you need. You could devise a mechanism linking all four to turn together is that is required for precision. You could devise a gear drive. There are many possibilities, but you need to look at the rest of your requirements in order to choose.
 
The four items will be in position 1. They will have to be able to move 180 degrees to position 2 and wait. There will be a load on them, after that they will move back from position 2 to position 1 while their still is a load on the items. Picture:

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Looks like you may have a kinematic interference problem to deal with also. You better check your dimensions to see if that is a problem or not. Your Fig 2 suggests that you cannot simply open out the flippers without the opposite ends engaging.
 
True, in this picture. But it's just a quick drawing I made to explain the situation.

Basically it's like this, to make it more clear:

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Any tips guys?
 
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How to drive these flaps depends on a number of things that you have not identified as yet. What is the source of the load? What is the environment for the whole assembly? What are the capabilities of your shop?

You mentioned stepper motors as a possibility, and indeed they may be, depending on the amount of load that they have to work against. Other possibilities include a variety of motor driven gear systems, motor driven belt systems, etc.
 
The load will be about 30 kg on every item. Normal environment. During the ingoing movement there will be nothing on the items, so no load. Then a load will be putted on them and a few seconds afterwards they will have to move outwards again.

But how should I assemble those motor driven gear/belt systems?
 

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