Moving two blocks connected by a spring

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two blocks connected by a spring, focusing on energy conservation principles, work done on the system, and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy. The subject area includes mechanics, specifically energy transformations and dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of kinetic energy and potential energy in the context of the system's work done. There are attempts to relate the final energies to the work done on the system, with some questioning the initial conditions and the assumptions about energy states.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the energy calculations and the relationships between different forms of energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of work done and its relation to the energy equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the final answer or approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the initial energy is zero due to the objects being at rest and the spring being at its natural length. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of work done in relation to energy changes in the system.

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Homework Statement


m_1, v_1f
m_2, v_2f
m_2 = m_1 = m

Homework Equations



KE = .5mv^2
W = F*d
spring: F= -kx
pot energy = PE = -.5kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



A) K + U = .5m(v_1f)^2 + .5m(v_2f)^2 - .5kx^2
.5(.1kg)(v_1f)^2 + .5(.1kg)(v_2f)^2 -.5(100N/m)(.02m)^2

B) ??
translational KE - going straight?
isnt it
.5(.1kg)(v_1f)^2 + .5(.1kg)(v_2f)^2

C) ??
V_cm...
??
am i looking for how fast the center of the spring is moving?
the center of the spring moved from .03 m to .1m

and so

?? I am lost

or do I get the average speed of the two boxes which would be

V_cm = (V_1f+V_2f)/2

or

.5(.1kg)(v_1f)^2 + .5(.1kg)(v_2f)^2 -.5(100N/m)(.02m)^2 = Wd = (5N)(.08m)
(v_1f)^2 + (v_2f)^2 = 8.4 (m^2)/(s^2)

does that equal V_cm?

V_cm = ( 8.4 (m^2)/(s^2) ) ^ (1/2) = 2.90 m/s

D) ??

vibrational?
 

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(A)
How much work has been done on this system?
 
Wd = (5N)(.08m)
 
Okay, so the energy system has increased by that amount. That helps with (A), getting the total energy K+U. Do you see why?
 
what are you trying to say?

the initial energy = 0
becuz the objects are at rest and spring is at its natural lenght

so therefore

the final energy is K + U which is equal to Wd

that?

and so

.5m(v_1f)^2+.5m(v_2f)^2-.5kx^2 = (100N/m)(.08m)
KE m1 KE m2 PEspr Wd

so my answer is??

8 Joules
 
soupastupid said:
what are you trying to say?

the initial energy = 0
becuz the objects are at rest and spring is at its natural lenght
Yes, correct.

so therefore

the final energy is K + U which is equal to Wd

that?

Almost. K+U is equal to the work done, W=Fd:

Wd = (5N)(.08m)
Well, this is really W or Fd, but not Wd. At any rate, multiplying (5N) times (0.08m) will give you the answer to (A).

and so

.5m(v_1f)^2+.5m(v_2f)^2-.5kx^2 = (100N/m)(.08m)
KE m1 KE m2 PEspr Wd

so my answer is??

8 Joules
No, see above comments.
 

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