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The discussion revolves around the percentage of light reflected by a thick glass mirror, specifically addressing the commonly cited figure of 4%. Participants explore the reasons behind this percentage, the influence of refractive index, and the implications for applications such as astronomy and laser work.

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  • Some participants question why 4% of light is reflected, suggesting it could be different (e.g., 5% or 10%) and inquire whether a lower refractive index would change this percentage.
  • One participant emphasizes that the reflection percentage depends on the quality and smoothness of the glass surface, indicating that transmission losses also occur during light's passage through the glass.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating the reflection percentage based on the refractive index, demonstrating that a refractive index of 1.5 yields 4%, while higher and lower indices produce different reflection values.
  • Some participants note the importance of front-surface reflective mirrors in applications requiring high accuracy, such as astronomy and laser work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the reflection percentage and its dependence on refractive index and surface quality. There is no consensus on the exact reasons for the 4% figure or its variability.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the calculations assume normal incidence and neglect surface irregularities, which may not reflect real-world conditions.

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I understand that 4% of the light is reflected back from the glass surface in a thick glass mirror. But why 4%? Why not 5% or 10%? Will this percentage change if the glass has a lower refractive index?
 
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Where did you read that ? do you have a reference ?

I would expect the percentage to be reflected back from the air/glass boundary surface to be dependent on the quality of the glass and the smoothness of the surface
the rest would be transmitted through the glass and reflected off the rear reflection surface and back out again ( there would be transmission losses in the glass as part of the double traverse the light does as well)

lets see what others have to say :)

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Fiona Rozario said:
I understand that 4% of the light is reflected back from the glass surface in a thick glass mirror. But why 4%? Why not 5% or 10%? Will this percentage change if the glass has a lower refractive index?

Neglecting surface irregularities and assuming the light strikes at a normal angle (perpendicular to the surface), the amount of light reflected by transparent surface is given by the equation R=(1-n/1+n)2, where R is the amount of light reflected and n is the refractive index. Glass with a refractive index of 1.5 gives us: R=(1-1.5/1+1.5)2, which comes out to be R=0.04, which is 4%.

With a refractive index of 2: R=(1-2/1+2)2, or R=0.111..., which is about 11.1%.

With a refractive index of 1.1: R=1-1.1/1+1.1)2, or R=0.002268, about 0.2%.

Finding the amount of light reflected when the light is striking at an angle other than normal is much more complicated.
 
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Drakkith said:
Neglecting surface irregularities and assuming the light strikes at a normal angle (perpendicular to the surface), the amount of light reflected by transparent surface is given by the equation R=(1-n/1+n)2, where R is the amount of light reflected and n is the refractive index. Glass with a refractive index of 1.5 gives us: R=(1-1.5/1+1.5)2, which comes out to be R=0.04, which is 4%.

With a refractive index of 2: R=(1-2/1+2)2, or R=0.111..., which is about 11.1%.

With a refractive index of 1.1: R=1-1.1/1+1.1)2, or R=0.002268, about 0.2%.

Finding the amount of light reflected when the light is striking at an angle other than normal is much more complicated.

Thank you!
 
This is why accurate mirrors as are needed for astronomy and laser work are front-surface reflective.
 
Danger said:
This is why accurate mirrors as are needed for astronomy and laser work are front-surface reflective.

Indeed. To my knowledge, pretty much all telescope mirrors are front-surface reflective.
 

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