Mw 7.1 offshr SE Mindanao, Philippines

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The discussion revolves around the Mw 7.1 earthquake that occurred offshore Southeast Mindanao, Philippines. Participants explore the implications of the earthquake, particularly regarding tsunami risks and historical precedents of similar seismic events. The conversation includes technical aspects of earthquake characteristics and their potential to generate tsunamis.

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  • One participant reports the earthquake's details, including its magnitude, location, and depth.
  • Another participant notes the absence of significant damage and a tsunami warning, expressing relief.
  • Some participants discuss the unusual conditions under which a M7.1 earthquake could generate a tsunami, citing historical examples.
  • A participant references the 2018 Sulawesi earthquake and tsunami, highlighting the importance of depth and location in tsunami generation.
  • Another participant recalls the 1998 Papua New Guinea tsunami, emphasizing the role of a submarine landslide as a trigger rather than the earthquake itself.
  • There is mention of the need for countries to assess tsunami hazards and preparedness in light of historical events.
  • Discrepancies in reported magnitudes and depths of past earthquakes are noted, indicating ongoing discussions about the accuracy of seismic data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while M7.1 earthquakes can lead to tsunamis under certain conditions, the specific circumstances of this event do not suggest an imminent tsunami threat. However, multiple competing views remain regarding the conditions necessary for tsunami generation and the implications of historical events.

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Participants reference various historical earthquakes and their tsunami impacts, indicating a reliance on specific case studies to inform their understanding. There are unresolved questions regarding the exact conditions that lead to tsunami generation and the accuracy of seismic data.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying seismology, tsunami risks, and earthquake preparedness, as well as individuals interested in the historical context of seismic events.

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Mw 7.1 offshore SE Mindanao, Philippines, this morning

M 7.1 - 63 km E of Pondaguitan, Philippines
2021-08-11 17:46:14 (UTC)
6.455°N 126.742°E
65.6 km depth

from my seismo
210811 UT Mw7.1 offshr SE Mindanao zhi.gif
 
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berkeman said:
Tsunami warning, thank goodness.

Yes, fortunately. Would be unusual for a M7.1 to generate a tsunami, but it does happen.
It's usually because of a secondary effect of the quake ... above or undersea landslide or similar

Dave
 
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davenn said:
Would be unusual for a M7.1 to generate a tsunami, but it does happen.
Under the right conditions, including depth and location. For example,
2018 Sulawesi earthquake and tsunami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Sulawesi_earthquake_and_tsunami

The magnitude 7.5 quake (depth 39.0 km (24.2 mi)) was located 70 km (43 mi) away from the provincial capital Palu and was felt as far away as Samarinda on East Kalimantan and also in Tawau, Malaysia.

Now that was 7.5, which is much stronger the 7 - 7.1 Mag. In addition, the earthquake in the OP has a depth 65.6 km.

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-it-about-earthquake-causes-a-tsunami
 
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Astronuc said:
Under the right conditions, including depth and location. For example,
2018 Sulawesi earthquake and tsunami

Yes, one the ones I had in mind

another one, that I always think of, was the ...
"On July 17, 1998, a 7.0 magnitude (Mw) earthquake struck the island of Papua New Guinea at 5:49 p.m. local time. But the terror for the villagers on the islands was far from over after the ground stopped shaking. Three catastrophic tsunami waves followed—devastating and razing the entire villages of Sissano, Warapu, Arop, and Malomo on the north coast of Papua New Guinea, killing at least 1,600 people, injuring 1,000, and displacing more than 10,000 people"

I remember this one well as we discussed it when I was at university geology dept.
Because for a while the real source of the tsunami wasnt found.

"The tsunami in Papua New Guinea had confirmed run-up heights of 15 meters (49 feet) at the village of Arop and 10–15 meters (33-49 feet) on a 25-kilometer (15-mile) stretch of coastline from the village of Sissano to Teles.
While most tsunamis are triggered by earthquakes, the tsunami that devastated Papua New Guinea was quite different. Since it arrived ten minutes later than predicted from earthquake sources, scientists determined that a submarine landslide generated by the earthquake actually triggered the tsunami.

This unusual occurrence generated interest in tsunami hazards in many parts of the world not previously considered at high risk of earthquake-generated landslide tsunamis. This event also brought to light the need for every country to identify the scope of their tsunami probability hazard and develop a tsunami preparedness plan."

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/day-papua-new-guinea-tsunami-1998Dave
 
davenn said:
"On July 17, 1998, a 7.0 magnitude (Mw) earthquake struck the island of Papua New Guinea at 5:49 p.m. local time.
https://www.usgs.gov/centers/pcmsc/...ce_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects

USGS image has depth of 6 km. And they corrected the magnitude to 7.6.
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usp000bbpf/executive

Shallow and near the coast would be a concern for tsunamis.For those interested - Tectonic summaries of magnitude 7 and greater earthquakes from 2000 to 2015 https://pubs.er.usgs.gov/publication/ofr20161192
 

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