My proof involving Pythagorean’s Theorem

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The discussion revolves around a proof involving the Pythagorean Theorem, specifically addressing an identity related to the sides of a right triangle. The original poster presents an equation that they seek to prove, which involves the lengths of the triangle's sides raised to various powers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to validate their proof by substituting expressions derived from the Pythagorean Theorem into the identity they are trying to prove. Some participants question the validity of this approach, suggesting that it assumes the identity is true from the outset. Others propose alternative methods, such as manipulating the Pythagorean identity to derive the necessary expressions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on the validity of the proof. There is a recognition that the initial proof may not meet the standards of a rigorous proof, while the revised proof is viewed more favorably by some contributors. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and suggestions for improvement.

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There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the proof process, particularly regarding the assumptions made in the original proof. The participants are focused on ensuring that the steps taken are logically sound and do not rely on the identity being true without proper justification.

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Homework Statement



Let a, b, and c be lengths of sides of triangle T, where a ≤ b ≤ c.
Prove that if T is a right triangle, then (abc)2=(c6-a6-b6)/3



Homework Equations



If T is a right triangle, then Pythagorean’s Theorem states:
The sum of the squares of the lengths of the sides of a right triangle is equal to the square of the length of the hypotenuse. That is a2+b2=c2, where c is the hypotenuse.


The Attempt at a Solution



We assume the given equation and using Pythagorean’s Theorem, we obtain solutions for c2 and c6:
We substitute these results into the original equation.
This produces an equation where the left hand side is identical to the right hand side.
Since these terms are equal, it follows that the original equation holds true for a right triangle.

This is what I have. I am curious to if the proof is correct/acceptable.

Thanks for any feedback.
 
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Can you be more specific? It sounds like you're plugging in what you find into the identity you are trying to prove, which is flawed in that it assumes your identity is true in the first place. You want to start with the expression on one side of the identity and get to the other expression. (You keep referring to the "original equation", which I take to be the identity you are trying to prove, and not the pythagorean identity).

For instance, take the pythagorean identity and raise both sides to the third power. Subtract a^6 and b^6 from both sides to get an expression for c^6 - a^6 -b^6. Divide by 3, factor, and use the pythagorean identity again to get the left hand side of the identity you are trying to prove.
 
You didn't really show what you did. But if you substituted c=sqrt(a^2+b^2) and got the same result on both sides, I think that's just fine.
 
Thanks for the help snipez90 and Dick. I redid the problem.

This is my original:
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And this is my new proof:
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Your first proof wasn't really a proof at all since you assumed what you wanted to prove and then arrived at a familiar equality (although, this can be a useful strategy if every step that you take is reversible). Your second proof looks correct to me however.
 

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