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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the analysis of shear and moment diagrams for a simply supported beam subjected to multiple moment couples. Participants explore the implications of these applied moments on the shear and moment diagrams, seeking to understand the resulting shapes and behaviors of the diagrams.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how multiple moment couples affect the shear and moment diagrams, proposing that each moment would not add shear but would instead create a step-like moment diagram.
  • Another participant corrects this view, stating that the shear remains constant along the beam and that the moment varies linearly between applied couples, with jumps occurring at each couple.
  • A third participant reinforces the idea that the moment is the integral of the shear force, suggesting that if the shear is zero, the moment remains constant.
  • A later reply suggests that the moment diagram may resemble a saw blade, indicating that the moments increase above the x-axis and return to zero at the right support, while also confirming the shear's constant value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the initial understanding of how the moment diagram behaves with multiple couples. While some corrections are made, there is no clear consensus on the exact shape of the moment diagram, as interpretations vary.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need to determine end reactions and the relationship between shear and moment, indicating that assumptions about the beam's loading and support conditions may influence the analysis.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners in structural engineering or mechanics who are studying the behavior of beams under various loading conditions, particularly those involving multiple moment couples.

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I am familiar with what the shear and moment diagrams should look like for a simply supported beam with one moment couple located somewhere between the supports. However, I'm working with one that has multiple couples applied to it and I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how it should work out.

Please consider the following:


...>...>...>
-------(--------(--------(--------

The moments are all the same size, and distance apart.

The Extent of what I know about this:
I know that if you only have one moment, the diagrams should look something like

F:
...<
------)--------

V:
0____________

M:
0_____
..._______


My Theory:
Am I right in thinking that each one of those consecutive moments would not add any shear, but would jump the line of the moment graph up by it's magnitude repeatedly leaving me with a diagram that looks like a set of steps?

Thank you!
 
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uber_beetle said:
I am familiar with what the shear and moment diagrams should look like for a simply supported beam with one moment couple located somewhere between the supports. However, I'm working with one that has multiple couples applied to it and I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how it should work out.

Please consider the following:


...>...>...>
-------(--------(--------(--------

The moments are all the same size, and distance apart.

The Extent of what I know about this:
I know that if you only have one moment, the diagrams should look something like

F:
...<
------)--------

V:
0____________

M:
0_____
..._______


My Theory:
Am I right in thinking that each one of those consecutive moments would not add any shear, but would jump the line of the moment graph up by it's magnitude repeatedly leaving me with a diagram that looks like a set of steps?

Thank you!
You are not quite on track, but close. The shear stays constant along the length of the beam(determine end reactions first). The moment along the beam jumps at each applied couple, but is not constant in between couples...it varies linearly with a slope equal to the shear at any given point.
 
uber_beetle said:
I am familiar with what the shear and moment diagrams should look like for a simply supported beam with one moment couple located somewhere between the supports. However, I'm working with one that has multiple couples applied to it and I'm having trouble wrapping my head around how it should work out.

Please consider the following:


...>...>...>
-------(--------(--------(--------

The moments are all the same size, and distance apart.

The Extent of what I know about this:
I know that if you only have one moment, the diagrams should look something like

F:
...<
------)--------

V:
0____________

M:
0_____
..._______

You should also realize that your original diagrams were not correct. As phanthomjay pointed out, the moment is the integral of the shear force along the beam. If v is zero, then the moment is a constant.
 
Ok... an update.. I'm pretty sure i got it straightened out.. but can you confirm that this thing's moment diagram would look sort of like a saw blade?

The reactions work out in my homework version as a large fraction of M... basically, if you sum them across the beam... the moment creeps up above the x-axis and finally ends with a 0 at the far right support.
 
uber_beetle said:
Ok... an update.. I'm pretty sure i got it straightened out.. but can you confirm that this thing's moment diagram would look sort of like a saw blade?

The reactions work out in my homework version as a large fraction of M... basically, if you sum them across the beam... the moment creeps up above the x-axis and finally ends with a 0 at the far right support.
Yes, looks like a rip saw blade; the reactions are 3M/L and -3M/L at each end, respectively; shear is constant at -3M/L; the moments are zero at each end and zig-zag below and above the x-axis in between.
 

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