Need help finding the buoyant force in this problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of wooden beams needed for a raft designed by scouts to safely cross a lake. The scouts' total weight and the buoyant force generated by the beams are central to solving the problem. The equations provided include the weight of the scouts and the weight of the beams, with a focus on balancing the forces to ensure the raft remains above water. A participant points out an algebraic error in the initial calculations, emphasizing the need for correct application of static equilibrium principles. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in physics problems.
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Hi everyone,

This question is killing me, I don't know why but I just can't get my head around it.

Homework Statement



A team of 6 scouts plans to cross a lake on a raft they designed.

The scouts have wooden beams with an average density of .80. The beams measure 30cm x 30cm x 3m.

The average mass for the team members is 65kg, and for their safety, they want the top of the raft to be at least 3 cm above the surface of the water.

How many beams will they need to complete their project successfully?

Homework Equations



I'm not sure if I need to post them. f = mg is the main one.

The Attempt at a Solution



My tutor gave me this method:

Fg(scouts) = 65 x 9.8 x 6

V(beam) = .27m^3

Fg(beam) = 800 x 9.8 x .27

Fg(raft) = Fg(beam) x n [n = number of beams]

Fg(total) = Fg(scouts) + Fg(raft)

Fb = 2381 x n

Fb = Fg(total) = Fg(scouts) + Fg(raft).

Solve for n.

Now I'm just a lowly high school student so my math isn't all that great, and when I do this I end up getting 0. The equation as I write it out is

2381n = -3822 - 2116n = -3822 - 2116n

6713n = -3822 +3822

6713n = 0

Could anyone help me out with this question?

Thanks,

Kevin
 
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Your algebra has taken a wrong turn.

Fg = -3822 - 2116n

Fb = 2381n

From statics, we know that Fb + Fg = 0 (there is no net force on a floating object)

so, 2381n -3822 - 2116n = 0

Solve for n
 
TheKShaugh said:
2381n = -3822 - 2116n = -3822 - 2116n

6713n = -3822 +3822
Try that step again.
 
SteamKing said:
Your algebra has taken a wrong turn.

Fg = -3822 - 2116n

Fb = 2381n

From statics, we know that Fb + Fg = 0 (there is no net force on a floating object)

so, 2381n -3822 - 2116n = 0

Solve for n

Thank you. You truly are the king of kings.
 
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