Need help to solve an oscillation problem.

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The discussion revolves around solving an oscillation problem involving a spring-mass system where the goal is to determine the first time when mechanical energy equals kinetic energy. The equation provided is x(t) = 12sin(5t + 3.5), and it is noted that kinetic energy is maximized when potential energy is zero, which occurs when x = 0. Participants clarify that the first positive time must be found, as using 2π results in a negative time. The conversation emphasizes the importance of considering the function's behavior and identifying the correct time values, particularly focusing on odd multiples of π. The key takeaway is to find the first positive t where x(t) equals zero.
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Homework Statement


It's an oscillation problem. I have to find the FIRST time when the spring-mass system will have E (mechanical energy) = K (kinetic energy), if x(t)=12sin(5t+3,5). (t is time in seconds, x is lenghtof the system in cm).

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E=1/2kA^2
K= 1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


What I think: If E = K, there is no potential energy (U). So we are searching the first time when K will be maximal. I know that Kmax in a simple harmonic motion is when V is max. So, in the trigonometry circle : at π and 2π, 3, 4 etc. Since Φ start at 3,5, little after π, i think that the first time will be at 2π rad (where K is max). But when i use 2π in the equation [ x(t)=12sin(5t+3,5)], i come up with a negative time...
Thanks for helping me sorting this out!
 
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Just to clarify, ## x(t)=12 \sin(5t+3.5) ## if I interpreted it correctly. (Europe sometimes uses a comma for the decimal point). ## \\ ## Do they want the first time that it occurs where ## t>0 ## ? The statement of the problem seems somewhat unclear.
 
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Your reasoning is fine. So it will be all kinetic energy at ##2\pi##, which means also at 0, ##\pm 2\pi##, ##\pm 4\pi##, etc. Nothing wrong with your reasoning except for your assumption that ##2\pi## had to be the first without examining the argument.

So find the first number of that form that gives a positive ##t##. It's not ##2\pi##, what's the next time where the function crosses 0?
 
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RPinPA said:
Your reasoning is fine. So it will be all kinetic energy at ##2\pi##, which means also at 0, ##\pm 2\pi##, ##\pm 4\pi##, etc. Nothing wrong with your reasoning except for your assumption that ##2\pi## had to be the first without examining the argument.

So find the first number of that form that gives a positive ##t##. It's not ##2\pi##, what's the next time where the function crosses 0?
Don't forget the odd multiples of ## \pi ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
Don't forget the odd multiples of ## \pi ##.
Oops, yes, you're right.

The simpler reasoning is this: The mechanical energy is all kinetic when the potential energy is 0. Since PE = ##(1/2)kx^2## then this happens when ##x = 0##. So you're looking for a ##t## value when ##x = 0##.
 
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Charles Link said:
Just to clarify, ## x(t)=12 \sin(5t+3.5) ## if I interpreted it correctly. (Europe sometimes uses a comma for the decimal point). ## \\ ## Do they want the first time that it occurs where ## t>0 ## ? The statement of the problem seems somewhat unclear.
Thanks Charles,
Yes, it's Φ = 3,5. The question is ''Find the 1st time when E=K.''
 
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when i use 2π in the equation [ x(t)=12sin(5t+3,5)], i come up with a negative time...
So try the next one.
 
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