Need help with this question regarding kinematics.

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A ball is thrown downward from a cliff with an initial velocity of 7 m/s and takes 1.45 seconds to reach the ground. The correct calculation for the height of the cliff involves using the equation for displacement, which incorporates initial velocity, acceleration, and time. A common mistake was misidentifying the initial and final velocities in the calculations. After correcting the inputs, the answer of -20 meters for the height of the cliff was confirmed. Proper understanding of kinematic equations is essential for solving such problems accurately.
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Homework Statement


a) A ball is thrown in the -y direction off of a cliff with a velocity of 7m/s. If the ball takes 1.45s to reach the ground, how high off of the ground is the cliff? (Answer: -20m)

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(t)

Displacement=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2

Vf^2=Vi^2+2a(Displacement)

Displacement= 1/2(Vf+Vi)(t)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


Known Values: [/B]
  • Acceleration(a): -9.8m/s^2
  • Time(t):1.45s
  • Final Velocity(Vf): -7m/s
  • Initial Velocity(Vi): 0m/s
  • Displacement:?

I plug in the numbers and I'm not getting -20m as my answer. What am I doing wrong? or what am I not doing?
 
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DracoMalfoy said:
Initial Velocity(Vi): 0m/s
This is not correct. The problem statement says that the ball is thrown with an velocity 7 m/s in the negative y-direction. This refers to the initial velocity, not the final velocity.
 
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The only equation you need is ## s=v_i t +\frac{1}{2}at^2 ##. I don't know where the arithmetic is going wrong. Please show us what you get when you plug it in.
 
Orodruin said:
This is not correct. The problem statement says that the ball is thrown with an velocity 7 m/s in the negative y-direction. This refers to the initial velocity, not the final velocity.

Yes, I see that now. I also didn't plug in the numbers correctly in my first attempt. I did end up getting -20 this time. If that really IS the correct answer. Thanks.
 
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DracoMalfoy said:

Homework Statement


a) A ball is thrown in the -y direction off of a cliff with a velocity of 7m/s. If the ball takes 1.45s to reach the ground, how high off of the ground is the cliff? (Answer: -20m)

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(t)

Displacement=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2

Vf^2=Vi^2+2a(Displacement)

Displacement= 1/2(Vf+Vi)(t)[/B]

Last line is wrong you lost the squares.
 
CWatters said:
Last line is wrong you lost the squares.
Displacement is the average velocity multiplied by the time. The last line of the OP is correct.
 
CWatters said:
Last line is wrong you lost the squares.
No, it is not wrong. Squares would make it dimensionally inconsistent.
Note that
$$
v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2as \quad \Longrightarrow \quad
s = \frac{v_f^2 - v_i^2}{2a} = \frac{v_f+v_i}{2} \underbrace{\frac{v_f - v_i}{a}}_{= t}
$$
 
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