A Negative T for a spin 1 system in the canonical ensemble

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The discussion centers on the apparent inconsistency in deriving negative temperatures for a spin 1 system of N particles. The partition function and average energy are defined, leading to a dimensionless energy equation that suggests conditions for real temperatures. The key issue arises when exploring the implications of the derived equations, particularly that if the average energy exceeds the maximum possible energy, it leads to contradictions regarding temperature. The participants highlight that the equation used is not quadratic due to temperature dependence in the coefficients. This raises questions about the validity of the results and the interpretation of negative temperatures in the context of statistical mechanics.
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I'm interested in an apparent inconsistency with the result for negative temperatures for a spin 1 system of N particles.

The partition function of such a system is

\begin{equation}
Z=(1+2\cosh(\beta \,\epsilon))^{N}
\end{equation}
where each particle can be in one of three energy states: E=-\epsilon,\,0,\,\epsilon.

The average energy of the system is

\begin{equation}
\langle E \rangle=-\frac{2N\epsilon\,\sinh(\beta\,\epsilon)}{1+2\cosh(\beta\epsilon)}.
\end{equation}

Let me define \mathcal{E}=\langle E \rangle/N\epsilon. If I'm to write \beta=1/k_{_{B}}T in terms of this dimensionless energy \mathcal{E}, I'll arrive at the equation

\begin{equation}
\mathcal{E}+(\mathcal{E}+1)e^{\beta B}+(\mathcal{E}-1)e^{-\beta B}=0.
\end{equation}

I tried to solve this as a quadractic equation, obtaining

\begin{equation}
\beta = \frac{1}{B}\ln\left[\frac{-\mathcal{E}+\sqrt{4-3\mathcal{E}^{2}}}{2}\right].
\end{equation}

The first thing to observe is that we must have

\begin{equation}
\mathcal{E}^{2}<\frac{4}{3}
\end{equation}

for a real temperature to exist. Now, for a solution with negative temperature to exist, we have to have that

\begin{equation}
-\mathcal{E}+\sqrt{4-3\mathcal{E}^{2}}<2
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
-\mathcal{E}<1
\end{equation}

If \mathcal{E}&gt;0 this relation is always satisfied. If \mathcal{E}=-|\mathcal{E}|, then the condition reads |\mathcal{E}|&lt;1. This is the part I don't get. If |\mathcal{E}|&gt;1 then we have positive temperatures. But this means that

\begin{equation}
|\langle E \rangle| > N\epsilon
\end{equation}

and N\epsilon is the energy the system has if all N particles are in identical alignment with respect to the external magnetic field. It's the maximum energy possible. How can the average temperature be larger than the maximum possible?Thank you very much.
 
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Your equation (3) is not quadratic. The average energy depends on the temperature, so the coefficients in equ 3 are not constants.
 
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