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The discussion revolves around the interest in telescopes and the exploration of celestial phenomena, particularly in relation to concepts like Planet X, Nibiru, and other associated theories. Participants express curiosity about observing distant celestial bodies, including Pluto, and seek advice on suitable telescopes for such observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a belief in the existence of Planet X and speculates about potential life on it, linking it to various cultural and religious narratives.
  • Another participant shares skepticism about the claims surrounding Planet X and expresses a desire to learn how to use a telescope to explore the night sky.
  • A third participant provides technical information about the limitations of telescopes in observing Pluto, noting its dimness and small size, and suggests starting with brighter celestial objects like Jupiter, Venus, and the Moon.
  • A participant shares their experience with a beginner telescope, mentioning the ability to see Jupiter's bands and some of its moons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the claims regarding Planet X and related theories. There is a clear division between those who entertain these ideas and those who dismiss them as conspiracy theories. However, there is agreement on the technical aspects of telescope use and the challenges of observing distant celestial objects.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the feasibility of observing Pluto with amateur telescopes due to its brightness and size limitations. The discussion also reflects varying levels of belief in the associated theories and the implications of those beliefs on the interest in astronomy.

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Individuals interested in amateur astronomy, telescope usage, and discussions surrounding celestial phenomena and conspiracy theories may find this thread useful.

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Since i heard/researched about this Planet X (Nibiru), 2012 (end of days), Mayans (Sumerian), Annnunaki (aliens), revelations (bible) and all that, I want to start to look into our heavens!

So, i wanted a good telescope that can see to at least pluto...

Anyway, what does everyone think about all the stuff i mentioned?
its a touchy subject. I personally think that this Planet X exists, there may be some life on it. I don't believe we were engineered by aliens, at least, not originally. But i do think that if this planet does enter our orbit, that will be the end of time, and there's where God comes in.

Who owns a telescope and knows how to use it?
 
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TheOak84 said:
Since i heard/researched about this Planet X (Nibiru), 2012 (end of days), Mayans (Sumerian), Annnunaki (aliens), revelations (bible) and all that, I want to start to look into our heavens!

Anyway, what does everyone think about all the stuff i mentioned?

:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::rolleyes:
 
ha, ya, its nuts...

Well, i wanted a telescope for a while, but i wouldn't even know what to look at. Then i heard about all that nonsense, so i wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Also, itd give me a good reason to learn HOW to use a telescope.

Now that that's cleared up, can anyone help?
 
We don't entertain crackpottery and conspiracy theories, so that line of discussion will not continue (but you can search the forums for answers to your questions about those crackpot claims). However, we can help you with telescope questions.
So, i wanted a good telescope that can see to at least pluto...
There is no distance limitation for telescopes. There are size and brightness limitations. Pluto's magnitude is 15, which is pretty dim and requires a pretty big scope to see it visually. This is about the smallest/cheapest that has any chance of picking it up: http://www.telescope.com/control/pr...ctors/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=08042

Pluto is also very small. So small, in fact, that with an amatuer telescope it has no discernable size: it is indistinguishable from a dim star. And because of that, finding it is extremely difficult unless you use a camera and a tracking or guiding telescope.

Bottom line, you'll probably want to set your expectations a little lower for your first telescope. Jupiter and Venus are up right now (though Jupiter will disappear behind the sun soon). Saturn will be coming around in a month or two. And the moon is always a good beginner target. As well, there are some bright nebulae, clusters, and galaxies that can be seen with a telescope such as this: http://www.telescope.com/control/pr...ctors/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=09747
 
I just got my 1st ever telescope a few months ago. It's nothing special, but a good starting point probably. You can easily see the bands of Jupiter and a few of the moons with it.

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=09964"
 
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