Newton's 2nd Law Problem: Finding Force and Direction of Travel

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a particle's motion in the xy-plane, given its position equations. Participants analyze how to derive the net force and direction of travel using Newton's second law, emphasizing the importance of calculating acceleration as the second derivative of the position functions. There is a caution about correctly determining the angle of the force and velocity, particularly regarding the quadrant of the acceleration vector. Missteps in using the arctan function are highlighted, stressing the need for careful consideration of the signs of the components. Overall, the conversation underscores the complexities involved in applying these concepts to the problem at hand.
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Homework Statement


A 0.25 kg particle moves in an xy plane according to x(t) = -15 + 2t - 4t3 and y(t) = 25 + 7t - 9t2, with x and y in meters and t in seconds. Find formulas at time t<35 sec for the (a) the magnitude and (b) the angle (relative to the positive direction of the x axis) of the net force on the particle (in radians), as well as (c) the angle of the particle's direction of travel (in radians)

Homework Equations


F=ma
Pythagorean thereom
Fx=Fcosθ
Fy=Fsinθ

The Attempt at a Solution


With the x(t) and y(t) being the decoupled position vector, I thought I would use Pythagorean Thereom to come up with the vector r
r=((-4t^3+2t-15)^2+(-9t^2+7t+25)^2)^0.5
r=(16t^6+65t^4-6t^3-397t^2+290t+850)^.5
approximating the square roots for the coeffecients:
r=4t^3+9.06t^2-2.45t^1.5-19.92t+17.03t^0.5+29.15
I have a strong suspicion that I went about this in a very wrong way
 
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As Force=mass*acceleration and the acceleration in each direction is the second derivative of the decoupled position function the acceleration functions would be ax(t)=-24t ay(t)=-18
 
Making the force function=((576t^2+324)^.5)/4 ?
 
Jrlinton said:
Making the force function=((576t^2+324)^.5)/4 ?
Yes.
 
Okay so the angle of the force would then be .25 arctan(-18/-24t) ??
 
or .25 arctan(3/4t) simplified and the angle of the velocity being arctan(-18t/.12t^2)=arctan(3/2t)
 
Those last two were incorrect.
 
Pay attention to the quadrant that the acceleration vector lies in. The arctan function can be a trap when the signs of the x and y components are not both positive. You need to sort out the correct quadrant yourself and adjust the result accordingly.
 
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