NH3 adsorption at high pressure

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Ammonia adsorption behavior at pressures between 1-15 bar is influenced by the Langmuir adsorption isotherm, which indicates that as pressure increases, the fraction of adsorbed sites on a surface also increases. However, the vapor pressure of ammonia at 25°C is 8 bar, raising questions about adsorption at 15 bar. At low pressures (below 0.5 Torr), ammonia gradually recovers different adsorption sites, releasing varying heats of adsorption that provide insights into surface energetics. The discussion highlights that at higher pressures, the dynamics of adsorption and desorption may change, potentially leading to multilayer formation and the observation of weakly bound ammonia. It is suggested that desorption occurs in a stepwise manner, with weakly bound sites releasing ammonia before strongly bound sites. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of adsorption phenomena under varying pressure conditions and the need for specific substrate information to fully understand these processes.
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Hi! Does anywone knows what happen with ammonia adsorption at pressures of 1-15 bar? thanks.:smile:
 
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According to the Langmuir adsorption isotherm theory, the fraction of adsorbed sites on a surface is increased as the pressure (or concentration) rises. Therefore as the pressure goes up, the adsorption goes up.
 
chemisttree said:
According to the Langmuir adsorption isotherm theory, the fraction of adsorbed sites on a surface is increased as the pressure (or concentration) rises. Therefore as the pressure goes up, the adsorption goes up.

Yes, O know. the problem is: vapor pressure of NH at 25C is 8 Bar. Do we have adsorption at 15Bar? secondly. When an adsorption is performed at very small pressures (below 0.5Torr = 0.000666 Bar) ammonia will recover gradually the different adsorption sites. iun accordance with this, different heats of adsortpion are released. firstly, the strongest sites are recoverd after that the lowest one. these heats are able to give information about surface energetics of the solid. When we work at so high pressures (more than 1Bar) are we able to have the same information? What really happen with ammonia. I think that all adsorption sites will be recoverd at the same time. i think that a multilayer will be frmed at the beginning of the adsorption. What do you think?
 
brendw2005 said:
Yes, O know. the problem is: vapor pressure of NH at 25C is 8 Bar. Do we have adsorption at 15Bar?
Yes.


brendw2005 said:
secondly. When an adsorption is performed at very small pressures (below 0.5Torr = 0.000666 Bar) ammonia will recover gradually the different adsorption sites. iun accordance with this, different heats of adsortpion are released. firstly, the strongest sites are recoverd after that the lowest one. these heats are able to give information about surface energetics of the solid. When we work at so high pressures (more than 1Bar) are we able to have the same information?
After populating all of the various sites (including the possibility of multilayer sites...) the application of a lower pressure will cause the more weakly bound sites to give up ammonia before the strongly bound sites will. You called this "...strongest sites are recoverd after that the lowest one." There is a heat of desorption associated with this but I don't know what it is. You also need some information about the substrate to answer that one... When even higher pressures are applied prior to the application of the lower (desorption) pressure there is a possibility that additional modes of adsorption may be observed. These will be extremely weakly bound ammonia and may be difficult to measure.

brendw2005 said:
What really happen with ammonia. I think that all adsorption sites will be recoverd at the same time. i think that a multilayer will be frmed at the beginning of the adsorption. What do you think?

I don't agree but I don't have any specific information for your system. It is likely that a monolayer will be formed over all of the sites at moderate to high pressure and at even higher pressures multilayers may form where space allows. Desorption would follow the general trend of multilayer > weakly bound > strongly bound in any case and should occur in definite stepwise (and measurable) fashion. Differences in the desorption isotherm after application of increasingly high pressure would indicate that something interesting is happening such as fracture, permanent surface change, reaction, etc...
 
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